Official NBA Finals Thread!
  • Obviously, this is Dodger related but for all of us Laker fans here, this is the thread where we can discuss the Lakers in their latest run at the Finals and the championship. I just decided to make this because the other thread is from last year. Well, let's hope they start off 1-0.

    Go Lakers!
  • Alright, wow what a blow out the Lakers put on tonight, they held the Magic to just 75 points but more importantly, 29% shooting and limiting the Magic and in their three-pointers, will win you the game. Lakers had a great offensive show from that man in the 24 jersey, Kobe Bryant who posted a career-high in the Finals in scoring 40 points.

    What did you guys think in the win?
  • SVbeagador June 2009
    Great win! The magic missed a lot of open shots. I'm sure they will come back and those shots will go in. So the Lakers have to keep up their D and play hard. The key for them always seems to be playing hard for 48 minutes. Game 2 is huge. The Lakers need it.
  • [quote]
    SVbeagador:
    Great win! The magic missed a lot of open shots. I'm sure they will come back and those shots will go in. So the Lakers have to keep up their D and play hard. The key for them always seems to be playing hard for 48 minutes. Game 2 is huge. The Lakers need it.

    I definitely agree. Just becuase the Lakers blew out the Magic this game, doesn't mean that the series is over completely. The Magic are a very talented team, and should not under any circumstances be underestimated. But, I think the real reason why the Lakers won is their defense on Dwight Howard and they contested the three pointers very well. I would like the Lakers to win this in 6 so that they can win here in L.A. Just my thought.
  • ocmike24ocmike24 June 2009
    Everyone make sure Courtney Lee is on your Christmas Card list.
  • This game had a better basketball element, it was a lot closer than last game and from a basketball perspective, a WAY better of a basketball game than the Game 1, but at least the Lakers take a 2-0 series lead.

    I say the Lakers will lose Game 3, will win Game 4, lose Game 5 and then win the 6th game here in front of the home crowd.
  • ThrowdeuceThrowdeuce June 2009
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    JamesMiranda:
    This game had a better basketball element, it was a lot closer than last game and from a basketball perspective, a WAY better of a basketball game than the Game 1, but at least the Lakers take a 2-0 series lead.

    I say the Lakers will lose Game 3, will win Game 4, lose Game 5 and then win the 6th game here in front of the home crowd.

    Doesn't the NBA do the finals 2-2-1-1-1? If that's case game 5 and 7 would be in LA, and games 3,4 and 6 in Orlando. I'm not a big follower of the NBA, but I thought they did they same as the NHL (and I think this is how the MLB should also do 7 game series).
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    Throwdeuce:


    Doesn't the NBA do the finals 2-2-1-1-1? If that's case game 5 and 7 would be in LA, and games 3,4 and 6 in Orlando. I'm not a big follower of the NBA, but I thought they did they same as the NHL (and I think this is how the MLB should also do 7 game series).

    It is 2-3-2 this year. I figure the Lakers will take one in Orlando, so they will likely win it in six, at home.
  • ThrowdeuceThrowdeuce June 2009
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    grabarkewitz:


    It is 2-3-2 this year. I figure the Lakers will take one in Orlando, so they will likely win it in six, at home.

    Gotcha, makes going up 2-0 even more important. I really believe all leagues need to do the 2-2-1-1-1 in 7 game series, that way splitting the first two really makes it a best of 5. When the next three are at the same location, the home team almost has to win all three to win the series, IMO.
  • ocmike24ocmike24 June 2009
    For some inexplicable reason, the finals are always 2-3-2. How that is a "home court advantage" to the team that has the best record I'll never understand.
  • SVbeagador June 2009
    Good victory by the Lakers.
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    ocmike24:
    For some inexplicable reason, the finals are always 2-3-2. How that is a "home court advantage" to the team that has the best record I'll never understand.

    Yea, I actually think that this somehow favors the Magic in some way, but at least we know that the Lakers were, if I'm not mistaken, the best road team in the NBA. For some reason, I feel as though they play better on the road. I have no reason why.

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    grabarkewitz:


    It is 2-3-2 this year. I figure the Lakers will take one in Orlando, so they will likely win it in six, at home.

    Which one do you think the Lakers will win? I have a feeling its going to be a repeat of what the Boston Celtics did to the Lakers last year. The Lakers won Game 3 and 5 but lost Game 4, with of course, the Boston Celtics winning that Game 6 in dominating fashion.
  • ThrowdeuceThrowdeuce June 2009
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    ocmike24:
    For some inexplicable reason, the finals are always 2-3-2. How that is a "home court advantage" to the team that has the best record I'll never understand.

    Which makes my point even more so, the team with HCA (or HFA), practically needs to win the first two at home, or they are screwed. The away team almost needs to split the first two, or they are screwed as well. The NHL has it the best. Current finals have had the home team winning every game, going back to Pittsburgh for game 6, and if the Pens win that one, it will be a all or nothing game 7 back in Detroit. If the Lakers just win one of the 3 in Orlando, they SHOULD wrap it up in game 6 at home, wouldn't the league rather have the series go as long as possible?
  • SVbeagador June 2009
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    Throwdeuce:


    Which makes my point even more so, the team with HCA (or HFA), practically needs to win the first two at home, or they are screwed. The away team almost needs to split the first two, or they are screwed as well. The NHL has it the best. Current finals have had the home team winning every game, going back to Pittsburgh for game 6, and if the Pens win that one, it will be a all or nothing game 7 back in Detroit. If the Lakers just win one of the 3 in Orlando, they SHOULD wrap it up in game 6 at home, wouldn't the league rather have the series go as long as possible?

    Well, if the Lakers split games 3 and 4, it seems that the Magic would have a better chance to extend the series if Game 5 was at Orlando rather than in LA.
  • ThrowdeuceThrowdeuce June 2009
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    SVbeagador:


    Well, if the Lakers split games 3 and 4, it seems that the Magic would have a better chance to extend the series if Game 5 was at Orlando rather than in LA.

    But the Lakers (or any team with HC/HFA) should have the chance to win the championship at home in game 5 if they play that well on the road in games 3 or 4.
  • SVbeagador June 2009
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    Throwdeuce:


    But the Lakers (or any team with HC/HFA) should have the chance to win the championship at home in game 5 if they play that well on the road in games 3 or 4.

    I think the 2, 2, 1, 1, 1 format is better, but I'm not sure it will necessarily extend the series. The Lakers have won on the road in each round. I think and hope they can take either game 3 or 4. If so, then I'm not sure the series would have been extended to 7 games no matter where game 5 and 6 were/are played.

    What the format does is really put pressure on the home team to win the first two at home because then you can be out of it without a return trip home if you get swept on the road.

    I guess the 2-3-2 format is not horrible. That is what they use in baseball. I just find it silly that for all prior rounds the NBA uses a 2-2-1-1-1 format and then changes it in the finals.

    I also find it silly that they needed two days off b/n games 1 and 2 when both teams had 5 or 6 days off before game 1. Dumb networks.
  • [quote]
    Throwdeuce:


    But the Lakers (or any team with HC/HFA) should have the chance to win the championship at home in game 5 if they play that well on the road in games 3 or 4.
    Isn't 2-3-2 what MLB does for the World Series? I guess it comes down to how much home court advantage the team with the best record should have.

    The Lakers played their 1st two games at home. That gave them an opportunity to gain momentum going into the 3 away games, and they've taken advantage of that opportunity. If they lose ALL 3 games in Orlando, it's because they sucked, not just because of home court advantage.

    No short series is going to play out with an ideal scenario in all cases. No matter the game split, there will be cases where the champion wins on the visiting field/court/rink.
  • ThrowdeuceThrowdeuce June 2009
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    Babe Herman:

    Isn't 2-3-2 what MLB does for the World Series? I guess it comes down to how much home court advantage the team with the best record should have.

    The Lakers played their 1st two games at home. That gave them an opportunity to gain momentum going into the 3 away games, and they've taken advantage of that opportunity. If they lose ALL 3 games in Orlando, it's because they sucked, not just because of home court advantage.

    No short series is going to play out with an ideal scenario in all cases. No matter the game split, there will be cases where the champion wins on the visiting field/court/rink.

    Yes MLB does it that way, and I don't like it. Take '88 for example, the Dodgers won in 5, if it had been a 2-2-1-1-1 schedule, game 5 would have been in LA not in Oakland. And you could even go back to '81, when the Dodgers won in 6, game 6 would have been in LA.
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    Throwdeuce:


    Yes MLB does it that way, and I don't like it. Take '88 for example, the Dodgers won in 5, if it had been a 2-2-1-1-1 schedule, game 5 would have been in LA not in Oakland. And you could even go back to '81, when the Dodgers won in 6, game 6 would have been in LA.So how do you think a best of 7 series should be played?
  • ThrowdeuceThrowdeuce June 2009
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    Babe Herman:
    So how do you think a best of 7 series should be played?

    I think I've said it plenty of times 2-2-1-1-1. And I proved a point if you look at the NHL finals, it's going to a game 7, but I seriously doubt it would have if it was 2-3-2, as the home team has won every game so far.
  • SVbeagador June 2009
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    Throwdeuce:


    I think I've said it plenty of times 2-2-1-1-1. And I proved a point if you look at the NHL finals, it's going to a game 7, but I seriously doubt it would have if it was 2-3-2, as the home team has won every game so far.

    If the home team wins every game, then regardless of its 2-2-1-1-1 or 2-3-2 the series still goes 7 games.
  • ThrowdeuceThrowdeuce June 2009
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    SVbeagador:


    If the home team wins every game, then regardless of its 2-2-1-1-1 or 2-3-2 the series still goes 7 games.

    True, however I doubt the Red Wings would have lost 3 in a row (much like I can't see the Lakers losing 3 in a row) on the road, that's the point I've been trying to make.However a 2-2-1-1-1 makes it much easier for there to be a game 7 IMo, which all the leagues have to like.
  • SVbeagador June 2009
    [quote]
    Throwdeuce:


    True, however I doubt the Red Wings would have lost 3 in a row (much like I can't see the Lakers losing 3 in a row) on the road, that's the point I've been trying to make.However a 2-2-1-1-1 makes it much easier for there to be a game 7 IMo, which all the leagues have to like.

    Yeah, they say that a lot (hard to win three in a row) . . . I don't really buy it. The Lakers almost won today . . . dumb plays at the end. Many times the home team loses games 3 or 4 (which I would think would be the case if the series format was different). I just think it's very dumb to change things up in the finals from the rest of the playoff series.
  • SamAdamsSamAdams June 2009
    Sorry, LA folks, but it seems like every night the Lakers win, the Dodgers lose. Go Magic.
    :shamed:
  • SVbeagador June 2009
    Let's see if you are right or just being annoying:

    Lakers Playoff wins
    June 7 - Dodgers Lose
    June 4 - Dodgers Lose
    May 29 - Dodgers Lose
    May 27 - Dodgers WIN
    May 23 - Dodgers WIN
    May 19 - Dodgers WIN
    May 17 - Dodgers WIN
    May 12 - Dodgers Lose
    May 6 - Dodgers Win
    April 27 - Dodgers Lose
    April 25 - Dodgers WIN
    April 21 - Dodgers Lose
    April 19 - Dodgers Win

    Dodgers won 7 times when the Lakers Win
    Dodgers lose 6 times when the Lakers Win.

    Seems the Dodgers are doing okay when the Lakers win. So no reason to be annoying.
  • [quote]
    SamAdams:
    Sorry, LA folks, but it seems like every night the Lakers win, the Dodgers lose. Go Magic.
    :shamed:

    It'll be over in three games. I'm sure no one will catch up to the Dodgers in that time.
  • MatthewMatthew June 2009
    The corpse of Derek Fisher comes alive! Lakers win 99-91 in OT to go up 3-1!

    What a game and I lose another 5 years of my life.
  • ocmike24ocmike24 June 2009
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    Matthew:
    The corpse of Derek Fisher comes alive! Lakers win 99-91 in OT to go up 3-1!

    What a game and I lose another 5 years of my life.
    The Fish that Saved LA!!!!!!
  • Great game. Pietrus is a freakin' thug. Stern best bounce him for the next game, that hit on Gasol was weak. Who knew Fisher still had some game left in him? He sure in the Hell couldn't play defense for squirt. I wish I knew a reason that Walton gets any court time. I know the fool hustles, but I think I could out shoot the fool.

    I gotta think this game took most of the heart out of the Magic. They had chances upon chances to put this game away and couldn't do it. That ain't how you win championships.
  • I am in the hospital after suffering a heart attack.
  • MatthewMatthew June 2009
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    ocmike24:

    The Fish that Saved LA!!!!!!

    That was just such a great moment. I was so happy to see him sink those two shots; brought back a lot of memories. Fisher will always be one of my all-time favorite Lakers.

    And he also saved Kobe's ass, who has reverted, for the most part, to the Kobe of old, the past two games.
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    Matthew:


    That was just such a great moment. I was so happy to see him sink those two shots; brought back a lot of memories. Fisher will always be one of my all-time favorite Lakers.

    And he also saved Kobe's ass, who has reverted, for the most part, to the Kobe of old, the past two games.

    Yea, lest we forget 0.4.

    Fish's jersey will be retired. He will go down as arguably one my favorite Lakers of all-time.
  • SVbeagador June 2009
    Great victory by the Lakers. Fisher and Ariza saved the game. Fisher hit two huge shots, but Trevor kept them and got them back into the game. Gasol and Odom had bad games IMO. Kobe was on and off. He needs to drive and dish rather than try to hit some tough 20 foot fall away jumper.

    The Lakers were very lucky to take this game . . . Howard missing two huge free throws and Nelson letting Fisher get off a three. Great victory. I was so up and down this game, my wife was telling me that I was stressing her out.
  • SVbeagador June 2009
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    JamesMiranda:


    Yea, lest we forget 0.4.

    Fish's jersey will be retired. He will go down as arguably one my favorite Lakers of all-time.

    .4 was great. Yet, they actually lost in the finals. So, 1 more and they have to come out and get the job down otherwise those two threes don't bring home a title.
  • ocmike24ocmike24 June 2009
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  • Yup...there it is ladies and gentlemen!

    LAKERS!

    I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE LA!

    And now, if you will excuse me, I shall go to Downtown, and flip some cars.
  • WillieWillie June 2009
    [quote]
    JamesMiranda:
    Yup...there it is ladies and gentlemen!

    LAKERS!

    I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE LA!

    And now, if you will excuse me, I shall go to Downtown, and flip some cars.

    I'm glad my car isn't Downtown.
  • MatthewMatthew June 2009
    Your 2009 NBA Champions...

    LOS ANGELES LAKERS!!
  • MatthewMatthew June 2009
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    "Yo Shaq, tell me how my ass tastes!"
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    Matthew:
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    "Yo Shaq, tell me how my ass tastes!"

    #4 for the Mamba, and now SamAdams, you get your wish.
  • SVbeagador June 2009
    Yes! Great year! A lot of ups and some downs, but they did it! And, the Dodgers won today!

    Way to go Lakers. Great job Kobe, Trevor, Lamar, Gasol, FISH!, Bynum, Sasha, Walton, Famrar, Brown, DJ, Josh, Sun, Adam . . . and Phil (along with the rest of the coaching staff)

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