The Big Blue Wrecking Crew

Well, it's only one game, but it's the first game of a rediculous 3 yr contract to Lilly. No doubt he'll have some decent outings, but is there anyone that doesn't think DeLaRosa can outperform the Tedster right now?

jWerthfan said:

Well, it's only one game, but it's the first game of a rediculous 3 yr contract to Lilly. No doubt he'll have some decent outings, but is there anyone that doesn't think DeLaRosa can outperform the Tedster right now?

He looks like he's throwing BP.  Not ALL TOO different from last year.  Why Ned gave that man that much money will always be beyond me ... regardless of his performance this year (I do predict a decent year for him), how about the next two years when he's earning $12M plus per year?  Talk about stupid.

I don't see anyone talking about the Gint fan who was beaten up by several "Dodger" fans.   Let's face it, this is all on Frank.  He is so worried about attendance that he doesn't provide basic security and because Frank is going broke, he is not going to turn away the bad element as long as they have money for the tickets, parking, beer and whatnot.    This is not the first time a Giant fan has been attacked by a so-called Dodger fan at Dodger Stadium.    Back in the day, one would expect this kind of thing at Candlestick.   Pretty much the same economic situation.   The Gints were going broke quickly and couldn't or wouldn't pony up for security.    Fights in the bleachers were commonplace and some were down right scary.   A Dodger fan couldn't wear their colors back in the day at Candlestick.   Now, the new ownership of the Giants doesn't scrimp on security.   Besides some ribbing and some verbal back and forth, wearing the Blue is not a suicidal act anymore.    Unfortunately, Frank tries to make the act look like a rare outburst.   That is Frank burying his head in the sand.   Simers actually had a good story about the incident in today's Times, until he tried for the comedy angle and failed badly.   If he had just stuck with incident and not let his story be an indictment of the team on the field, it would've made his point.  

I love where Frank said that having 2000 cops there wouldn't have made a difference. What a jerk. His whole statement was about limiting liability, probably because he knows he's going to get his pants sued off. He deserves it. I'd love to see some discovery on his security plans and how he's pilfered that budget so that he can afford 100 grand haicuts. Or maybe one of his doofus boys is in charge of security, making half a mil per and living out of state. What a joke.

"He (Lilly) looks like he's throwing BP.  Not ALL TOO different from last year."

Really?

Ted Lilly with the Dodgers, 2010:

W/L:   7-4
ERA:  3.52
BB/K:  15/77
WHIP:  0.991

Pretty nasty batting practice.   Better than anyone we've had lately not named "Kershaw".

I have to thank Fox for televising the Padres-Cardinals game in my area.  What a debacle in L.A.  I thought only Torre was capable of emptying the bench the third friggin' game of the season!  What's with that, Donny?  It was basically a lineup of NRI's and a rookie thrown in for good measure to complement Ethier and Kemp.  Wow!

Re the attack in the parking lot, the atmosphere at Dodger Stadium, in certain sections, has become Raider-like.  The parking lot then becomes the melting pot of all the gang bangers, drunks, and family types.  It's just one more aspect of Dodger baseball that has deteriorated under McCourts' watch.

NEDodger said:

"He (Lilly) looks like he's throwing BP.  Not ALL TOO different from last year."

Really?

Ted Lilly with the Dodgers, 2010:

W/L:   7-4
ERA:  3.52
BB/K:  15/77
WHIP:  0.991

Pretty nasty batting practice.   Better than anyone we've had lately not named "Kershaw".

He did have some success last year, I just meant that his FB is in the mid-80s now like a BP pitcher.  No doubt he gets by on some guile and knowing how to pitch, but no one fears this guy anymore.  Maybe he can piece together a decent year in 2011, but how about 2012 and 2013 when he's 36 & 37?  You don't think batters will figure out how to time that 85MPH fastball?  Signing him to a 3-year deal at 35 years old was just not smart, imo.

I understand that some of the older players need rest but am more that a little surprised to see them rested in the third game.  I need someone to explain something to me.  

beefchopper said:

I understand that some of the older players need rest but am more that a little surprised to see them rested in the third game.  I need someone to explain something to me.  

Even if you believe it is time to rest some of the regulars, why rest all of them at the same time?  To me that is completely moronic unless the theory is to simply forfeit one game out of every few to be full strength in the others, something I find ridiculous.  When Gibberish Jim did that I passed it off to his incompetence.  When Torre did it I though maybe approaching senility could be the culprit.  Now that Mattingly has apparently decided to follow that particular strategy of his mentor I'm beyond exasperated.

I suggest the team post the scheduled forfeit games so we can all avoid wasting our time planning to watch.

Amen to that!

THIRD game of the season?!?!?  Guys are already tired???  We're playing our arch rivals, AT HOME!

Stupid, Mattingly.  Stupid.

hunteralan said:

beefchopper said:

I understand that some of the older players need rest but am more that a little surprised to see them rested in the third game.  I need someone to explain something to me.  

Even if you believe it is time to rest some of the regulars, why rest all of them at the same time?  To me that is completely moronic unless the theory is to simply forfeit one game out of every few to be full strength in the others, something I find ridiculous.  When Gibberish Jim did that I passed it off to his incompetence.  When Torre did it I though maybe approaching senility could be the culprit.  Now that Mattingly has apparently decided to follow that particular strategy of his mentor I'm beyond exasperated.

I suggest the team post the scheduled forfeit games so we can all avoid wasting our time planning to watch.

Amen to that!

THIRD game of the season?!?!?  Guys are already tired???  We're playing our arch rivals, AT HOME!

Stupid, Mattingly.  Stupid.

What's really annoying is that there's an OFF-DAY on both Monday AND Thursday.  Of the four pitching matchups, I think I would have sent my weak lineup out yesterday, too, for Lilly v. Cain, but I still think it shouldn't have been done at all.  Also, like you two were saying, sit Raffy yesterday, sit Barajas today!  Why all at the same time?

beefchopper said:

I understand that some of the older players need rest but am more that a little surprised to see them rested in the third game.  I need someone to explain something to me.  

Even if you believe it is time to rest some of the regulars, why rest all of them at the same time?  To me that is completely moronic unless the theory is to simply forfeit one game out of every few to be full strength in the others, something I find ridiculous.  When Gibberish Jim did that I passed it off to his incompetence.  When Torre did it I though maybe approaching senility could be the culprit.  Now that Mattingly has apparently decided to follow that particular strategy of his mentor I'm beyond exasperated.

I suggest the team post the scheduled forfeit games so we can all avoid wasting our time planning to watch.

Yeah, that's my gripe as well. I understand needing to rest guys, but how about rotating their rest schedules so that only one regular is out of the lineup.

It really is almost like forfeiting a game when you are going to rest a bunch of starters for a game.

Its stupid strategy. I guess Donnie just picked up where Torre left off.

beefchopper said:

I understand that some of the older players need rest but am more that a little surprised to see them rested in the third game.  I need someone to explain something to me.  

Even if you believe it is time to rest some of the regulars, why rest all of them at the same time?  To me that is completely moronic unless the theory is to simply forfeit one game out of every few to be full strength in the others, something I find ridiculous.  When Gibberish Jim did that I passed it off to his incompetence.  When Torre did it I though maybe approaching senility could be the culprit.  Now that Mattingly has apparently decided to follow that particular strategy of his mentor I'm beyond exasperated.

I suggest the team post the scheduled forfeit games so we can all avoid wasting our time planning to watch.

Yeah, that's my gripe as well. I understand needing to rest guys, but how about rotating their rest schedules so that only one regular is out of the lineup.

It really is almost like forfeiting a game when you are going to rest a bunch of starters for a game.

Its stupid strategy. I guess Donnie just picked up where Torre left off.

Strike one for Mattingly.

I'm willing to give him a chance to prove himself in the managers role, and since I really liked him as a player, I'm hoping he is as good on the bench as he was on the field.  However, if he keeps pulling stupid stunts like this one... Well, let's just say that without Everyone's Favorite Joe, the Idiocy Gene is begging for some fodder.

DoppelgangBang said:

I love where Frank said that having 2000 cops there wouldn't have made a difference. What a jerk. His whole statement was about limiting liability, probably because he knows he's going to get his pants sued off. He deserves it. I'd love to see some discovery on his security plans and how he's pilfered that budget so that he can afford 100 grand haicuts. Or maybe one of his doofus boys is in charge of security, making half a mil per and living out of state. What a joke.

Well, when you have a classless cretin as an owner...

Two years ago I went to three games, spread out over the season.  Sat once in the upper deck, once on the third base side in the first level, and once up the first base side in the first level.  At all three games I witnessed crude, classless behavior and physical altercations that caused people to have to be removed from the stadium.  That doesn't seem so 'random act of violence' to me.

2000 police officers wouldn't have mattered... My Lord.

I'm so embarrassed to call myself a Dodger fan right now.

Thanks McCourt.

I'm not sure that all this commotion about resting players "all at once" really means that much considering the players who were rested. With Uribe unable to play, the only really big loss in productivity was DeJesus in the lineup instead of Furcal. I'm not so sure that Gimenez instead of Barajas and Paul instead of Gwynn makes that big of a difference. Lets face it. On any given day when we play our best lineup, we're not going to scare any pitching staff.

Willie said:

I'm not sure that all this commotion about resting players "all at once" really means that much considering the players who were rested. With Uribe unable to play, the only really big loss in productivity was DeJesus in the lineup instead of Furcal. I'm not so sure that Gimenez instead of Barajas and Paul instead of Gwynn makes that big of a difference. Lets face it. On any given day when we play our best lineup, we're not going to scare any pitching staff.

That point is very well taken but is it really too much to want for the team to at least try to present the best of the mediocrity we have?  I'm very afraid this is an early indication of what we'll see as a strategy all season even when at "full strength" after those injured recovered.  This was often what we saw in past years.   Given that this was a home game against the Gints in the first week of the season, was it too much to expect Gipper Mattingly to give the troops a speech something like this:

hunteralan said:

DoppelgangBang said:

I love where Frank said that having 2000 cops there wouldn't have made a difference. What a jerk. His whole statement was about limiting liability, probably because he knows he's going to get his pants sued off. He deserves it. I'd love to see some discovery on his security plans and how he's pilfered that budget so that he can afford 100 grand haicuts. Or maybe one of his doofus boys is in charge of security, making half a mil per and living out of state. What a joke.

Well, when you have a classless cretin as an owner...

Two years ago I went to three games, spread out over the season.  Sat once in the upper deck, once on the third base side in the first level, and once up the first base side in the first level.  At all three games I witnessed crude, classless behavior and physical altercations that caused people to have to be removed from the stadium.  That doesn't seem so 'random act of violence' to me.

2000 police officers wouldn't have mattered... My Lord.

I'm so embarrassed to call myself a Dodger fan right now.

Thanks McCourt.

"The best of the mediocrity we have" Unfortunately, that pretty much says it all in regards to our offense. Yeah, I'll be concerned if this practice continues when we're back to full strength (as if that term could possibly describe any lineup we'll use in '11), but I really have no hope for the team being competitive this year and I think of this year as being a learning experience for Mattingly. I'm hoping he'll grow out of being a Torre disciple.

Edit: Looks like I quoted the wrong post. I intended to respond to Beefchopper's most recent post. Sign me up for the Idiocy Gene.

Yeah, that's the whole issue with the wholesale resting of starters with days off two of the next four.  Oh, but I forgot, the poor babies have to make that long flight (what is it, 100 minutes?) from L.A. to Denver.  

Bottom line, no one needs rest right now. The starters should be playing ever day for at least April and May, IMO.

Not to belabor the point, but my first post on the game thread made it clear I was shocked the entire "bench" was in the lineup.  Very Torre-esque.  I love a lot of what I see regarding Donnie, but that lineup was inexcusable. I'd love to hear his explanation for it.

Frankly I want to see what Dejesus, Gimenez and Paul can do while they're here. Either fish or cut bait with them soon, so they have to play. The only one I rolled my eyes about was Furcal, considering the two days off coming up.

Broxton . . . Poster boy for the irrelevance of the 'Save' stat.



Two home runs allowed (Aaron Rowand . . . Really??? ) in three innings pitched!?!?


Well, at least he didn't walk anybody...


L-)

Even worse, did Guerrier get a "Hold" for walking two out of the three men he faced, bringing the tying and winning run to the plate?  Now, the Hold is stat that just needs to go away.

Throwdeuce said:

Frankly I want to see what Dejesus, Gimenez and Paul can do while they're here. Either fish or cut bait with them soon, so they have to play. The only one I rolled my eyes about was Furcal, considering the two days off coming up.

I'm fine with IDJ getting playing time.  Equally fine with Paul, though I wish either he or Gwynn would just win the job outright.  Gimenez is AAAA, and the Dodgers are the last to figure that out. I would have rather seen Ellis.  Uribe was still hurt, so no fault there.  If Donnie had given Furcal tonight off instead of yesterday, it would have made more sense.  That said, it wouldn't have made any difference, obviously, due the 10-0 score.

SamAdams said:

Even worse, did Guerrier get a "Hold" for walking two out of the three men he faced, bringing the tying and winning run to the plate?  Now, the Hold is stat that just needs to go away.

Agreed completely Sam.

We took 3 of 4 from the Giants but there are some lessons to be learned here. Gurrier had better challenge hitters in the National League early in the count down or he will be destroyed. Broxton needs to trust his stuff he has been behind on nearly everyone and the Rowand Homerun was on a slide left in the middle of the plate that should have been bounced. Offensively Kemp is locked in, Barajas looks like he is locked in and Furcal and Ethier look to get hot soon. The Dodgers should be alright if they can get Lilly straightened out and leave Blake on the DL all season.

The Dodgers got some breaks in taking 3 of 4 from the Giants, mainly the Giants porous defense, but I will say this: outside of the Phillies, the Dodgers are not going to see a quartet of starters as formidable as the Giants' Lincecum, Sanchez, Cain and Zito.

It was encouraging that the Dodgers found ways to beat 3 out of those 4.

That said, I agree with loneymiller on Broxton and Guerrier. Hopefully, Broxton can gain confidence by continuing to get saves.

Or maybe he ends up back in the set up role and Jansen or evenutally Padilla ends up the closer. We'll see.

Just watched MLB Network's recap of the opening weekend.  Not a word about the Dodgers.

SamAdams said:

Just watched MLB Network's recap of the opening weekend.  Not a word about the Dodgers.

Don't look at ESPN's power rankings. They have Boston ranked ahead of the Dodgers despite being 0-3 to start the season.

I know Texas is good, but aren't the Giants the World Series champs? X(

The Dodgers got some breaks in taking 3 of 4 from the Giants, mainly the Giants porous defense, but I will say this: outside of the Phillies, the Dodgers are not going to see a quartet of starters as formidable as the Giants' Lincecum, Sanchez, Cain and Zito.

It was encouraging that the Dodgers found ways to beat 3 out of those 4.

That said, I agree with loneymiller on Broxton and Guerrier. Hopefully, Broxton can gain confidence by continuing to get saves.

Or maybe he ends up back in the set up role and Jansen or evenutally Padilla ends up the closer. We'll see.

I'm not sure the Dodgers so much "found ways to beat the Giants" as it was that the Giants found ways to hand 3 games to the Dodgers.  Those games weren't so much won as they were lost.  The Giants seemed to have forgotten what their gloves were for during the three games that they lost.  Bad fielding and mental errors handed the Dodgers more runs than they created.

Compare and contrast to the last night's game against Colorado and a team who played actual defense.  Tonight's game against the Rockies is what I feel will be much more the norm than this past weekend's "Christmas comes early" courtesy of the Giants.

EvilEuro said:

The Dodgers got some breaks in taking 3 of 4 from the Giants, mainly the Giants porous defense, but I will say this: outside of the Phillies, the Dodgers are not going to see a quartet of starters as formidable as the Giants' Lincecum, Sanchez, Cain and Zito.

It was encouraging that the Dodgers found ways to beat 3 out of those 4.

That said, I agree with loneymiller on Broxton and Guerrier. Hopefully, Broxton can gain confidence by continuing to get saves.

Or maybe he ends up back in the set up role and Jansen or evenutally Padilla ends up the closer. We'll see.

I'm not sure the Dodgers so much "found ways to beat the Giants" as it was that the Giants found ways to hand 3 games to the Dodgers.  Those games weren't so much won as they were lost.  The Giants seemed to have forgotten what their gloves were for during the three games that they lost.  Bad fielding and mental errors handed the Dodgers more runs than they created.

Compare and contrast to the last night's game against Colorado and a team who played actual defense.  Tonight's game against the Rockies is what I feel will be much more the norm than this past weekend's "Christmas comes early" courtesy of the Giants.

Well, FWIW, I think Chacin is an outstanding young pitcher and he was dealing last night. Really changed speeds and location well.

Yes, the Dodgers are going to get shut out this year. Probably more than the average team, BUT I also think the Dodgers have not faced a bad pitcher yet in the season.

I do think the Rockies are a talented team and should contend this year.

And we all knew that this team, with the low OBP and low averages of some of the hitters, were prone to getting shut out on occasion.

Someone wanna start a game thread?

BluePastorKyle said:

Someone wanna start a game thread?

Welcome back Bearded one, who gets hit by a pitch, then is the lead man doubled up.  

Done.

Looks like McCourt is hiring former police chief Bratton to review and implement security, which is good, but I snicker inside because can this guy not stop himself from hiring Bostonian transplants?

This is a really interesting article about potentially "Juiced" baseballs. It's worth a read.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_juiced_baseballs_myth_040611

Loney hits one in the first row at Coors, and talk of juiced balls start!   :)

No this is just awesome:

Andruw looks trimmer and appeared to actually make a concerted effort to catch that ball.  

SamAdams said:

Andruw looks trimmer and appeared to actually make a concerted effort to catch that ball.  

How much are we paying him, Pierre, AND Manny.  Another example of McBroke's financial wherewithal.

Too much!  I honestly hope that all three of these guys have big years so we can throw that in Ned's face.  

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

Andruw looks trimmer and appeared to actually make a concerted effort to catch that ball.  

How much are we paying him, Pierre, AND Manny.  Another example of McBroke's financial wherewithal.

Too much!  I honestly hope that all three of these guys have big years so we can throw that in Ned's face.  

Well, you can forget about Manny:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6310125

He got pinched again by MLB's drug program and rather than go through the process again, he opted to retire, effective immediately.

Wow, sounds like Manny may have tried to use performance enhancers again to get his "mojo" back and got caught again.

I am definitely happy the Dodgers only went 2 yrs on Manny, even if it was 1 yr too long.

I'm sure everyone's following this injured Giants fan fiasco ... it's caused quite a stir.  The reward money is up to $150K of which McCourt and the Dodgers have only contributed $25K.  A local radio jock threw in $50K, because he's a big Dodger fan who hates McCourt (on a boycott of McCourt since 2009) and wanted to DOUBLE his offering, because it was so pathetic.  What was McCourt's response?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2011/04/dodgers-schedule-fundraiser-for-bryan-stow-on-monday-at-dodger-stadium.html

He asks the fans to foot the bill.  What a SHOCK.

DoppelgangBang said:

I'm sure everyone's following this injured Giants fan fiasco ... it's caused quite a stir.  The reward money is up to $150K of which McCourt and the Dodgers have only contributed $25K.  A local radio jock threw in $50K, because he's a big Dodger fan who hates McCourt (on a boycott of McCourt since 2009) and wanted to DOUBLE his offering, because it was so pathetic.  What was McCourt's response?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2011/04/dodgers-schedule-fundraiser-for-bryan-stow-on-monday-at-dodger-stadium.html

He asks the fans to foot the bill.  What a SHOCK.

Dopple-

Your insensitivity to McCourt's reasonable spending habits is what's really shocking!  Next you're going to tell me he needs to fly first class like the common folk.  Our family runs a business that is open to the public, shopping centers.  Incidents happen all the time.  A lady ran through one of our buildings just last week with her civic.  There's a way to handle things when you deal with the public and obviously McCourt is failing. I just talked with my wife about this, this morning.  If I'm in his position, I do 4 things:
1.  Front Stow's medical bills so the family doesn't have to.  McCourt won't be out of pocket a penny as his liability insurance will pick up the cost but it provides certainty for the family.
2.  Stay in front of the story and be the first to offer a reward.
3.  Hold a drive for Stow but pledge to match 2:1 all donations.
4.  Implement a new plan which to me would include 2 things, more lights in the lots and a higher police presence. 

Its not that hard to turn this tragic event into a positive for everybody going forward.

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

Andruw looks trimmer and appeared to actually make a concerted effort to catch that ball.  

How much are we paying him, Pierre, AND Manny.  Another example of McBroke's financial wherewithal.

Too much!  I honestly hope that all three of these guys have big years so we can throw that in Ned's face.  

Well, you can forget about Manny:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6310125

He got pinched again by MLB's drug program and rather than go through the process again, he opted to retire, effective immediately.

Wow, sounds like Manny may have tried to use performance enhancers again to get his "mojo" back and got caught again.

I am definitely happy the Dodgers only went 2 yrs on Manny, even if it was 1 yr too long.

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

Andruw looks trimmer and appeared to actually make a concerted effort to catch that ball.  

How much are we paying him, Pierre, AND Manny.  Another example of McBroke's financial wherewithal.

Too much!  I honestly hope that all three of these guys have big years so we can throw that in Ned's face.  

Well, you can forget about Manny:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6310125

He got pinched again by MLB's drug program and rather than go through the process again, he opted to retire, effective immediately.

Wow, sounds like Manny may have tried to use performance enhancers again to get his "mojo" back and got caught again.

I am definitely happy the Dodgers only went 2 yrs on Manny, even if it was 1 yr too long.

Sadly, Manny's retirement won't affect what we owe him in any way.  Too bad he didn't just retire with the first drug bust and we would have at least been off the hook for a pro rata portion of 2009 and 2010.  The fact that the retirement takes place AFTER the end of his LA contract means he can continue to live the high life off us.  His retirement is no big deal for him financially compared to what we owe him.

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

Andruw looks trimmer and appeared to actually make a concerted effort to catch that ball.  

How much are we paying him, Pierre, AND Manny.  Another example of McBroke's financial wherewithal.

Too much!  I honestly hope that all three of these guys have big years so we can throw that in Ned's face.  

Well, you can forget about Manny:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6310125

He got pinched again by MLB's drug program and rather than go through the process again, he opted to retire, effective immediately.

Wow, sounds like Manny may have tried to use performance enhancers again to get his "mojo" back and got caught again.

I am definitely happy the Dodgers only went 2 yrs on Manny, even if it was 1 yr too long.

I think this Manny thing brings up an interesting topic. In my opinion, Manny is the poster child of why these guys shouldn't get into the Hall of Fame.  I believe he couldn't care less about that and figured he was near retirement anyway, knew he was completely worthless without steroids and took a chance figuring he would either not get caught and possibly get a dope (like McCourt) to give him another big payday or get caught and retire.  What it shows me is that the steroids has a  VERY POWERFUL affect on performance and all those stories about it does not make you hit the ball etc. are complete bull. 

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

Andruw looks trimmer and appeared to actually make a concerted effort to catch that ball.  

How much are we paying him, Pierre, AND Manny.  Another example of McBroke's financial wherewithal.

Too much!  I honestly hope that all three of these guys have big years so we can throw that in Ned's face.  

Well, you can forget about Manny:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6310125

He got pinched again by MLB's drug program and rather than go through the process again, he opted to retire, effective immediately.

Wow, sounds like Manny may have tried to use performance enhancers again to get his "mojo" back and got caught again.

I am definitely happy the Dodgers only went 2 yrs on Manny, even if it was 1 yr too long.

He needs to be gone.  His antics have grown tired and boorish and his game is no more.  What a putz.

Glad he's gone.

saeldway said:

DoppelgangBang said:

I'm sure everyone's following this injured Giants fan fiasco ... it's caused quite a stir.  The reward money is up to $150K of which McCourt and the Dodgers have only contributed $25K.  A local radio jock threw in $50K, because he's a big Dodger fan who hates McCourt (on a boycott of McCourt since 2009) and wanted to DOUBLE his offering, because it was so pathetic.  What was McCourt's response?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2011/04/dodgers-schedule-fundraiser-for-bryan-stow-on-monday-at-dodger-stadium.html

He asks the fans to foot the bill.  What a SHOCK.

Dopple-

Your insensitivity to McCourt's reasonable spending habits is what's really shocking!  Next you're going to tell me he needs to fly first class like the common folk.  Our family runs a business that is open to the public, shopping centers.  Incidents happen all the time.  A lady ran through one of our buildings just last week with her civic.  There's a way to handle things when you deal with the public and obviously McCourt is failing. I just talked with my wife about this, this morning.  If I'm in his position, I do 4 things:
1.  Front Stow's medical bills so the family doesn't have to.  McCourt won't be out of pocket a penny as his liability insurance will pick up the cost but it provides certainty for the family.
2.  Stay in front of the story and be the first to offer a reward.
3.  Hold a drive for Stow but pledge to match 2:1 all donations.
4.  Implement a new plan which to me would include 2 things, more lights in the lots and a higher police presence. 

Its not that hard to turn this tragic event into a positive for everybody going forward.

Logic and reason, saeldway... Logic and reason.

Might as well be speaking the third dialect of the tribal nations of central Africa to McCheap.

I hate McCourt.

If Manny didn't burn bridges in Boston he never would have been caught. Yes I believe there's a different test that Red Sox and Yankee players take than other teams. Manny was taking something for years, yet doesn;t get caught until he comes to the Dodgers, and again with the Rays. When a Red Sox or Yankee player is ever suspended for PED's, then I'll believe there's a true testing system that works.

Throwdeuce said:

If Manny didn't burn bridges in Boston he never would have been caught. Yes I believe there's a different test that Red Sox and Yankee players take than other teams. Manny was taking something for years, yet doesn;t get caught until he comes to the Dodgers, and again with the Rays. When a Red Sox or Yankee player is ever suspended for PED's, then I'll believe there's a true testing system that works.

So when Andy Pettitte and ARod and David Ortiz all got named as users, that didn't count?

Mike Scioscias tragic illness said:

Throwdeuce said:

If Manny didn't burn bridges in Boston he never would have been caught. Yes I believe there's a different test that Red Sox and Yankee players take than other teams. Manny was taking something for years, yet doesn;t get caught until he comes to the Dodgers, and again with the Rays. When a Red Sox or Yankee player is ever suspended for PED's, then I'll believe there's a true testing system that works.

So when Andy Pettitte and ARod and David Ortiz all got named as users, that didn't count?

Were they named? Plus A-Rod was a Ranger in 2003 (the year the Mitchell Report was done). I think Pettitte and Arod just confessed to doing PED but weren't on the Mitchell Report, I know Ortiz wasn't on it. Hey it's great they confessed, but they never got penelized, and I wouldn't doubt their test while on the Yankees were thrown out. And if I'm not mistaken Petitte said he did it while with the Astros.