I don't want someone who has to finance it at all. It would basically limit them spending the money needed to even compete against the Angels now for free agents much less the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies. The Dodgers need a guy with a dumptruck load of cash who is willing to buy his way into the bigtime while also funding major changes in international scouting and the drafting of free agents.
This isn't about feel good stories anymore. To be a team that can consistently contend, you have to be able to go head-to-head with the major players and there aren't too many of these guys. Torre and Caruso are a joke in that regard.
NewportDevil said:I don't want someone who has to finance it at all. It would basically limit them spending the money needed to even compete against the Angels now for free agents much less the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies. The Dodgers need a guy with a dumptruck load of cash who is willing to buy his way into the bigtime while also funding major changes in international scouting and the drafting of free agents.
This isn't about feel good stories anymore. To be a team that can consistently contend, you have to be able to go head-to-head with the major players and there aren't too many of these guys. Torre and Caruso are a joke in that regard.
Hagdag26 said:What would sound wonderful is if the prospective bidders could somehow collude to keep all their bids under a billion. Fantasy for sure, but would be sweet revenge just to shove it up McCourt's backside.
grabarkewitz said:
Throwdeuce said:Disney Family and Peter O'Malley possibly teaming up:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2012/01/disney-family-peter-omalley-consider-joint-dodgers-bid-.html
beefchopper said:
Throwdeuce said:Disney Family and Peter O'Malley possibly teaming up:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2012/01/disney-family-peter-omalley-consider-joint-dodgers-bid-.html
Good news for all the secretaries in the Dodgers front office who want to return to the days of free ice cream after every win but not much here for Dodgers fans.
Disney Family and Peter O'Malley possibly teaming up:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2012/01/disney-family-peter-omalley-consider-joint-dodgers-bid-.htmlGood news for all the secretaries in the Dodgers front office who want to return to the days of free ice cream after every win but not much here for Dodgers fans.
Not such good news for the secretaries either. Based on the team Babu put together they won't win that much.
Chin Music said:
beefchopper said:
Throwdeuce said:Disney Family and Peter O'Malley possibly teaming up:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2012/01/disney-family-peter-omalley-consider-joint-dodgers-bid-.html
Good news for all the secretaries in the Dodgers front office who want to return to the days of free ice cream after every win but not much here for Dodgers fans.
Must disagree. This would be a classy union. The Dodgers and Disney have always been two tent poles of LA entertainment and culture. Remember this is not Disney the corporation it's the individuals in the family. The combined worth of these 2 families plus the inevitable investors would be enough to run a winning team and make a great fan experience. Plus Disney excells at magically having a Prince show up at the end and save the day:)
Throwdeuce said:Disney Family and Peter O'Malley possibly teaming up:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2012/01/disney-family-peter-omalley-consider-joint-dodgers-bid-.html
SamAdams said:If you think the McCourts' divorce was ugly, wait until some of these egomaniacs try to merge into a single entity. Wait! I take it back. Nobody could be as bad as the McCourts.
ItTakesFaith said:A new name, Larry Ellison, has apparently entered the fray...! As the third wealthiest person in California (not saying nearly as much these days!), Ellison certainly has the cash to play!
We could do worse. A guy with his track record and ego is sure to compete to win. Compared to what the tech world is suffering these days, the baseball world might seem mild by comparison.
beefchopper said:
Chin Music said:
beefchopper said:
Throwdeuce said:Disney Family and Peter O'Malley possibly teaming up:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2012/01/disney-family-peter-omalley-consider-joint-dodgers-bid-.html
Good news for all the secretaries in the Dodgers front office who want to return to the days of free ice cream after every win but not much here for Dodgers fans.
Must disagree. This would be a classy union. The Dodgers and Disney have always been two tent poles of LA entertainment and culture. Remember this is not Disney the corporation it's the individuals in the family. The combined worth of these 2 families plus the inevitable investors would be enough to run a winning team and make a great fan experience. Plus Disney excells at magically having a Prince show up at the end and save the day:)
My problem is that O'Malley was never one to try to spend big on players. He was a "model owner" who would never rock the boat as far as other owners were concerned. I do not believe he would produce anything more than a middling club in today's environment.
Chin Music said:
beefchopper said:
Chin Music said:
beefchopper said:
Throwdeuce said:Disney Family and Peter O'Malley possibly teaming up:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2012/01/disney-family-peter-omalley-consider-joint-dodgers-bid-.html
Good news for all the secretaries in the Dodgers front office who want to return to the days of free ice cream after every win but not much here for Dodgers fans.
Must disagree. This would be a classy union. The Dodgers and Disney have always been two tent poles of LA entertainment and culture. Remember this is not Disney the corporation it's the individuals in the family. The combined worth of these 2 families plus the inevitable investors would be enough to run a winning team and make a great fan experience. Plus Disney excells at magically having a Prince show up at the end and save the day:)
My problem is that O'Malley was never one to try to spend big on players. He was a "model owner" who would never rock the boat as far as other owners were concerned. I do not believe he would produce anything more than a middling club in today's environment.
You are right about the past but he was on auto pilot then. Can't imagine with new partners, payroll, new GM, and however many years it's been of him looking in from The outside the game that he wouldn't go for it. I'm liking the O'Disney group more than Magic.
Matthew said:
ItTakesFaith said:A new name, Larry Ellison, has apparently entered the fray...! As the third wealthiest person in California (not saying nearly as much these days!), Ellison certainly has the cash to play!
We could do worse. A guy with his track record and ego is sure to compete to win. Compared to what the tech world is suffering these days, the baseball world might seem mild by comparison.
Actually, he's the third richest in the country. He's #1 in California. Then again, as you said, given it's CA, I think I might be in the top 40 somewhere. But interesting to see him get involved.
Chin Music said:
beefchopper said:
Chin Music said:
beefchopper said:
Throwdeuce said:Disney Family and Peter O'Malley possibly teaming up:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2012/01/disney-family-peter-omalley-consider-joint-dodgers-bid-.html
Good news for all the secretaries in the Dodgers front office who want to return to the days of free ice cream after every win but not much here for Dodgers fans.
Must disagree. This would be a classy union. The Dodgers and Disney have always been two tent poles of LA entertainment and culture. Remember this is not Disney the corporation it's the individuals in the family. The combined worth of these 2 families plus the inevitable investors would be enough to run a winning team and make a great fan experience. Plus Disney excells at magically having a Prince show up at the end and save the day:)
My problem is that O'Malley was never one to try to spend big on players. He was a "model owner" who would never rock the boat as far as other owners were concerned. I do not believe he would produce anything more than a middling club in today's environment.
You are right about the past but he was on auto pilot then. Can't imagine with new partners, payroll, new GM, and however many years it's been of him looking in from The outside the game that he wouldn't go for it. I'm liking the O'Disney group more than Magic.
True2DaBlue said:Larry Ellison has got some SERIOUS cash! Lets see if he puts his money where his mouth (reportedly) is. Richest dude in Cali and the 3rd richest in the US? Yeah, he could afford it.
So, he tried to buy the Warriors and got outbid? Wonder what that was about.That said, if he is in and surrounds himself with solid, savvy baseball people (which we have been distant from for what seems like an eternity!), he moves way up on the list.
ItTakesFaith said:A new name, Larry Ellison, has apparently entered the fray...! As the third wealthiest person in California (not saying nearly as much these days!), Ellison certainly has the cash to play!
We could do worse. A guy with his track record and ego is sure to compete to win. Compared to what the tech world is suffering these days, the baseball world might seem mild by comparison.
beefchopper said:
Chin Music said:
beefchopper said:
Chin Music said:
beefchopper said:
Throwdeuce said:Disney Family and Peter O'Malley possibly teaming up:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dodgers/2012/01/disney-family-peter-omalley-consider-joint-dodgers-bid-.html
Good news for all the secretaries in the Dodgers front office who want to return to the days of free ice cream after every win but not much here for Dodgers fans.
Must disagree. This would be a classy union. The Dodgers and Disney have always been two tent poles of LA entertainment and culture. Remember this is not Disney the corporation it's the individuals in the family. The combined worth of these 2 families plus the inevitable investors would be enough to run a winning team and make a great fan experience. Plus Disney excells at magically having a Prince show up at the end and save the day:)
My problem is that O'Malley was never one to try to spend big on players. He was a "model owner" who would never rock the boat as far as other owners were concerned. I do not believe he would produce anything more than a middling club in today's environment.
You are right about the past but he was on auto pilot then. Can't imagine with new partners, payroll, new GM, and however many years it's been of him looking in from The outside the game that he wouldn't go for it. I'm liking the O'Disney group more than Magic.
I hope you're right but regardless, whoever replaces McCourt will be practically on his way to Sainthood in my book until proven otherwise.
shmolnick said:Ellison is an interesting entry in the future Dodger owner sweepstakes, although I reserve judgement until I see if and when he has a legit baseball guy involved. Until then, count me in the Magic/Kasten/Guggenheim camp.
Matthew said:
ItTakesFaith said:A new name, Larry Ellison, has apparently entered the fray...! As the third wealthiest person in California (not saying nearly as much these days!), Ellison certainly has the cash to play!
We could do worse. A guy with his track record and ego is sure to compete to win. Compared to what the tech world is suffering these days, the baseball world might seem mild by comparison.
Actually, he's the third richest in the country. He's #1 in California. Then again, as you said, given it's CA, I think I might be in the top 40 somewhere. But interesting to see him get involved.
beefchopper said:
True2DaBlue said:Larry Ellison has got some SERIOUS cash! Lets see if he puts his money where his mouth (reportedly) is. Richest dude in Cali and the 3rd richest in the US? Yeah, he could afford it.
So, he tried to buy the Warriors and got outbid? Wonder what that was about.That said, if he is in and surrounds himself with solid, savvy baseball people (which we have been distant from for what seems like an eternity!), he moves way up on the list.
Ellison has signed the Buffett/Gates pledge to give at least half of his estate to charity when he dies. He has said he actually plans to give 95% of it away. He already gives away huge amounts of money to charity now. Buying the Dodgers and supporting the team would be rounding error to him relative to his wealth.
ItTakesFaith said:Count me in on the Ellison/Billy Beane team! With Ellison's unlimited checkbook, and Beane's ability to exploit baseball inefficiencies independent of money considerations (now, with money-as-no-object), this is a can't miss partnership!
ItTakesFaith said:Count me in on the Ellison/Billy Beane team! With Ellison's unlimited checkbook, and Beane's ability to exploit baseball inefficiencies independent of money considerations (now, with money-as-no-object), this is a can't miss partnership!
True2DaBlue said:So much for the Ellison pipe dream?
This from Bob Nightengale (via twitter):The bids for the #Dodgers are due Monday, but wealthy Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle, tells friends he won't enter bidding process.
SamAdams said:
True2DaBlue said:So much for the Ellison pipe dream?
This from Bob Nightengale (via twitter):The bids for the #Dodgers are due Monday, but wealthy Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle, tells friends he won't enter bidding process.
That's too bad. Maybe he will change his mind.
DoppelgangBang said:http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-bidders-20120124,0,2729490.story
Now we can get down to business! Here's a nice list of who's thrown their hat in the ring so for ...Man, Shaikin has been ALL OVER this Dodger debacle ... I just can't get enough from him. Hall of fame coverage.So, now the REAL bidding begins ... these players get the REAL financials from McCourt and vy for approval from MLB. Now, let's get this going!!!!
True2DaBlue said:
DoppelgangBang said:http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-bidders-20120124,0,2729490.story
Now we can get down to business! Here's a nice list of who's thrown their hat in the ring so for ...Man, Shaikin has been ALL OVER this Dodger debacle ... I just can't get enough from him. Hall of fame coverage.So, now the REAL bidding begins ... these players get the REAL financials from McCourt and vy for approval from MLB. Now, let's get this going!!!!
Looks like some business is on the horizon? So glad to hear forward progress in this soap opera. Lets hope we get a solid group to buy our Blue and make us proud again to be Dodger fans!Shaikin is one of (if not THE) best things about reading the LA Times anymore! Great coverage of everything McDrama since all of this has gone down.Stan Kroenke is a new possible name to the list. Can we envision this:He saddles up to O'Malleys's group, they win the bid and buy the Dodgers, they build a new football stadium next to Dodger Stadium, the LA (ooops...St Louis!) Rams move back to LA?So many possibilities and twists and turns still yet to occur with merging, etc. I am just hoping that when every T is crossed and every I dotted, that McCucaracha is out completely (everything sold!) and we have a solid ownership group that will bring us back to where we deserve to be!PLEASE let this move ahead without any other issues!
beefchopper said:There is one potential silver (or even platinum) lining in the nightmare that has been the McCourt ownership. Maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part but it is possible and maybe even probable that in order for MLB to end the litigation and get the team sold ASAP they have agreed to allow an ownership group that will be totally unshackled on what they can and will spend in the future. I think in the past Bud has only approved owners he either knew would not break the bank or even got specific promises from them to not do so. The Dodgers sale just might be the only one ever that leads to a complete loss of influence or control from MLB over what they can spend. I really think we may get paid back for our misery with a team spending as much as the Yankees going forward. I can dream, anyway.
grabarkewitz said:
True2DaBlue said:
DoppelgangBang said:http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-bidders-20120124,0,2729490.story
Now we can get down to business! Here's a nice list of who's thrown their hat in the ring so for ...Man, Shaikin has been ALL OVER this Dodger debacle ... I just can't get enough from him. Hall of fame coverage.So, now the REAL bidding begins ... these players get the REAL financials from McCourt and vy for approval from MLB. Now, let's get this going!!!!
Looks like some business is on the horizon? So glad to hear forward progress in this soap opera. Lets hope we get a solid group to buy our Blue and make us proud again to be Dodger fans!Shaikin is one of (if not THE) best things about reading the LA Times anymore! Great coverage of everything McDrama since all of this has gone down.Stan Kroenke is a new possible name to the list. Can we envision this:He saddles up to O'Malleys's group, they win the bid and buy the Dodgers, they build a new football stadium next to Dodger Stadium, the LA (ooops...St Louis!) Rams move back to LA?So many possibilities and twists and turns still yet to occur with merging, etc. I am just hoping that when every T is crossed and every I dotted, that McCucaracha is out completely (everything sold!) and we have a solid ownership group that will bring us back to where we deserve to be!PLEASE let this move ahead without any other issues!
I know the list is all speculation, at this point, but I am surprised to not see two names on this list - Alec Gores and Ron Burkle. Last summer, both names were near the top of the short list for the ownership of the Dodgers and I would think that both would still be involved. I know Burkle likes to work behind the scenes and he could part of one of the groups and I expect that Gores is also part of group.
beefchopper said:There is one potential silver (or even platinum) lining in the nightmare that has been the McCourt ownership. Maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part but it is possible and maybe even probable that in order for MLB to end the litigation and get the team sold ASAP they have agreed to allow an ownership group that will be totally unshackled on what they can and will spend in the future. I think in the past Bud has only approved owners he either knew would not break the bank or even got specific promises from them to not do so. The Dodgers sale just might be the only one ever that leads to a complete loss of influence or control from MLB over what they can spend. I really think we may get paid back for our misery with a team spending as much as the Yankees going forward. I can dream, anyway.
Matthew said:Now, this is interesting: according to Heyman, Patrick Soon-Shiong, whose net worth is roughly $5-7 billion (and also bought Magic's share of the Lakers) will likely merge with the Magic group.
grabarkewitz said:
Matthew said:Now, this is interesting: according to Heyman, Patrick Soon-Shiong, whose net worth is roughly $5-7 billion (and also bought Magic's share of the Lakers) will likely merge with the Magic group.
Looks like we have a winner!
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