The Big Blue Wrecking Crew

A happy and healthy Merry Christmas to all from the Torgrimsson's.  Now, to get about seven hours sleep before the kiddage have us up in the morning.    God bless Ikea is all I have to say. 

Finally got around to lighting the Channukah candles last night.

Finally, some time to gain perspective...

All I want for Christmas is the end of the McCourt era and an honest, rich owner who cares about the Dodgers tradition and wants to build a winner. [-O<

SamAdams said:

All I want for Christmas is the end of the McCourt era and an honest, rich owner who cares about the Dodgers tradition and wants to build a winner.

Is that too much to ask?    

[-O<

Sounds like my Christmas wish, also.    Was up at four in the morning, kicking Katja out of her room so we could get her furniture built.   Only took us five hours.   Just waiting for two of the kiddage to wake up to open gifts.   Mary made breakfast and we are impressed, Belgian waffles, old fashioned whipped cream and strawberries.  Quality eats.  

Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah everyone!!!  

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

All I want for Christmas is the end of the McCourt era and an honest, rich owner who cares about the Dodgers tradition and wants to build a winner.

Is that too much to ask?    

[-O<

Sounds like my Christmas wish, also.    Was up at four in the morning, kicking Katja out of her room so we could get her furniture built.   Only took us five hours.   Just waiting for two of the kiddage to wake up to open gifts.   Mary made breakfast and we are impressed, Belgian waffles, old fashioned whipped cream and strawberries.  Quality eats.  

Hopefully, we can get the festivities done because Mary's cousins (just arrived the other day) and they want to see a couple movies and go to a beer pub.  Seeing as how there are no games until tonight, I think we can get in a couple movies, if they are not long. 

My mom is 85 yrs old, and still makes the best potato salad by miles over any I've ever tasted. Since I moved back to Va a year and a half ago, I've come home two Christmases [sp?] in a row with about a half gallon. That, my parents health, and the celebration of the birth of Jesus makes for a very good gift every year.

Along the geographic topic, are any of you fellow Dodger guys converts from another team?  In all honesty, I've been wondering if I could break a lifelong tie with the Dodgers, and jump ship. Outside Kershaw and Lopes, I just don't feel the pull much any longer - the Dodgers are populated almost totally with people I just really don't care about - players and non, but not rooting for the uniform any longer would represent a major breakup. The Nats are a 2 1/2 hour drive from here. They seem to be on the verge of something real good, and theres that Werth guy in the outfield.

Of course, there needs to be a Nationals equivalent to BBWC and MSTI before any change takes place....

jWerthfan said:

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

All I want for Christmas is the end of the McCourt era and an honest, rich owner who cares about the Dodgers tradition and wants to build a winner.

Is that too much to ask?    

[-O<

Sounds like my Christmas wish, also.    Was up at four in the morning, kicking Katja out of her room so we could get her furniture built.   Only took us five hours.   Just waiting for two of the kiddage to wake up to open gifts.   Mary made breakfast and we are impressed, Belgian waffles, old fashioned whipped cream and strawberries.  Quality eats.  

Hopefully, we can get the festivities done because Mary's cousins (just arrived the other day) and they want to see a couple movies and go to a beer pub.  Seeing as how there are no games until tonight, I think we can get in a couple movies, if they are not long. 

My mom is 85 yrs old, and still makes the best potato salad by miles over any I've ever tasted. Since I moved back to Va a year and a half ago, I've come home two Christmases [sp?] in a row with about a half gallon. That, my parents health, and the celebration of the birth of Jesus makes for a very good gift every year.

Along the geographic topic, are any of you fellow Dodger guys converts from another team?  In all honesty, I've been wondering if I could break a lifelong tie with the Dodgers, and jump ship. Outside Kershaw and Lopes, I just don't feel the pull much any longer - the Dodgers are populated almost totally with people I just really don't care about - players and non, but not rooting for the uniform any longer would represent a major breakup. The Nats are a 2 1/2 hour drive from here. They seem to be on the verge of something real good, and theres that Werth guy in the outfield.

Of course, there needs to be a Nationals equivalent to BBWC and MSTI before any change takes place....

Potato salad, you say?  Plain old Christmas fare here, tonight.  Ham, mashed potatoes, green beans and gravy.  The girls played chef.   Pecan pie for dessert.   Definitely beat, five hours building furniture will do that. Ended up seeing the Dragon Tattoo and the Darkest Hour today.   Dragon Tattoo was fantastic, although Fincher did take some liberties with the book.   Darkest Hour was just pure fun.   All the beer pubs were closed, so we ended up back at home for prime rib sandwiches. 

Since it's just the two of us, we're grilling a couple of steaks, some baked potatoes and creamed spinach.  Nice quiet Christmas.  Linda scored me a road Kings jersey, and I got her a massage at a local spa and a custom made calendar of our life together.

Merry Xmas to everyone!   Just had my second slice of pecan pie, so that means I get to go to the gym tomorrow to try to get rid of it.   We went to see a couple movies today.   The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was really good and I am surprised I liked it as much as I did.  I loved it when that pig got tasered.  That was pretty funny.   The other movie we saw, The Darkest Hour, thanks to my cousins Tatiana and Domi, was too weird for me.  For the next three weeks we will be taking them all over the state to see snow, Yosemite, San Francisco and anything else they want to see.  They have already been to Disneyland and saw Hollywood.    

grabarkewitz said:

jWerthfan said:

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

All I want for Christmas is the end of the McCourt era and an honest, rich owner who cares about the Dodgers tradition and wants to build a winner.

Is that too much to ask?    

[-O<

Sounds like my Christmas wish, also.    Was up at four in the morning, kicking Katja out of her room so we could get her furniture built.   Only took us five hours.   Just waiting for two of the kiddage to wake up to open gifts.   Mary made breakfast and we are impressed, Belgian waffles, old fashioned whipped cream and strawberries.  Quality eats.  

Hopefully, we can get the festivities done because Mary's cousins (just arrived the other day) and they want to see a couple movies and go to a beer pub.  Seeing as how there are no games until tonight, I think we can get in a couple movies, if they are not long. 

My mom is 85 yrs old, and still makes the best potato salad by miles over any I've ever tasted. Since I moved back to Va a year and a half ago, I've come home two Christmases [sp?] in a row with about a half gallon. That, my parents health, and the celebration of the birth of Jesus makes for a very good gift every year.

Along the geographic topic, are any of you fellow Dodger guys converts from another team?  In all honesty, I've been wondering if I could break a lifelong tie with the Dodgers, and jump ship. Outside Kershaw and Lopes, I just don't feel the pull much any longer - the Dodgers are populated almost totally with people I just really don't care about - players and non, but not rooting for the uniform any longer would represent a major breakup. The Nats are a 2 1/2 hour drive from here. They seem to be on the verge of something real good, and theres that Werth guy in the outfield.

Of course, there needs to be a Nationals equivalent to BBWC and MSTI before any change takes place....

Potato salad, you say?  Plain old Christmas fare here, tonight.  Ham, mashed potatoes, green beans and gravy.  The girls played chef.   Pecan pie for dessert.   Definitely beat, five hours building furniture will do that. Ended up seeing the Dragon Tattoo and the Darkest Hour today.   Dragon Tattoo was fantastic, although Fincher did take some liberties with the book.   Darkest Hour was just pure fun.   All the beer pubs were closed, so we ended up back at home for prime rib sandwiches. 

As for your question, lifetime Dodger fan and haven't really ever considered cheering for anyone else.   I just hope that the new owners reward the loyalty of Dodger fans through some ten years of crap ownership with some smart moves.  

LOL....prime rib sandwiches sound like a great consolation prize for missing out on a beer pub.

I mentioned it before, I think, but my relationship w/ the Dodgers started at 5 years old, when I found a Don Drysdale baseball card in the neighborhood, and recognized my name on it [ Dale ]. So, yeah, though civilians would never understand, breaking up w/ my team would be difficult, no doubt. When I'm not interacting with other fans, or reading the great blogs like Weisman's and Petriello's, [or when Clayton's not pitching] I just have a hard time getting 'up' for the likes of the players and front office that largely make up the ' Dodgers '.

These posts remind me of talking to my best friend about breaking up w/ my GF, or wife..and hoping he'd think of something I hadn't considered, as to talk me out of it. Congrats on the Ham Fighter jersey[s], btw!

What I left out on the previous post, is that while I also hope the new owner and GM bring about the beginning of a Dodger resurgence, it's still new people with most likely no ties to the history of the organization, and if I have to begin a new relationship, I can't convince myself yet that it shouldn't be w/ the area team. Of course, this is why I'm reaching out here for counseling. :)

jWerthfan said:

grabarkewitz said:

jWerthfan said:

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

All I want for Christmas is the end of the McCourt era and an honest, rich owner who cares about the Dodgers tradition and wants to build a winner.

Is that too much to ask?    

[-O<

Sounds like my Christmas wish, also.    Was up at four in the morning, kicking Katja out of her room so we could get her furniture built.   Only took us five hours.   Just waiting for two of the kiddage to wake up to open gifts.   Mary made breakfast and we are impressed, Belgian waffles, old fashioned whipped cream and strawberries.  Quality eats.  

Hopefully, we can get the festivities done because Mary's cousins (just arrived the other day) and they want to see a couple movies and go to a beer pub.  Seeing as how there are no games until tonight, I think we can get in a couple movies, if they are not long. 

My mom is 85 yrs old, and still makes the best potato salad by miles over any I've ever tasted. Since I moved back to Va a year and a half ago, I've come home two Christmases [sp?] in a row with about a half gallon. That, my parents health, and the celebration of the birth of Jesus makes for a very good gift every year.

Along the geographic topic, are any of you fellow Dodger guys converts from another team?  In all honesty, I've been wondering if I could break a lifelong tie with the Dodgers, and jump ship. Outside Kershaw and Lopes, I just don't feel the pull much any longer - the Dodgers are populated almost totally with people I just really don't care about - players and non, but not rooting for the uniform any longer would represent a major breakup. The Nats are a 2 1/2 hour drive from here. They seem to be on the verge of something real good, and theres that Werth guy in the outfield.

Of course, there needs to be a Nationals equivalent to BBWC and MSTI before any change takes place....

Potato salad, you say?  Plain old Christmas fare here, tonight.  Ham, mashed potatoes, green beans and gravy.  The girls played chef.   Pecan pie for dessert.   Definitely beat, five hours building furniture will do that. Ended up seeing the Dragon Tattoo and the Darkest Hour today.   Dragon Tattoo was fantastic, although Fincher did take some liberties with the book.   Darkest Hour was just pure fun.   All the beer pubs were closed, so we ended up back at home for prime rib sandwiches. 

As for your question, lifetime Dodger fan and haven't really ever considered cheering for anyone else.   I just hope that the new owners reward the loyalty of Dodger fans through some ten years of crap ownership with some smart moves.  

LOL....prime rib sandwiches sound like a great consolation prize for missing out on a beer pub.

I mentioned it before, I think, but my relationship w/ the Dodgers started at 5 years old, when I found a Don Drysdale baseball card in the neighborhood, and recognized my name on it [ Dale ]. So, yeah, though civilians would never understand, breaking up w/ my team would be difficult, no doubt. When I'm not interacting with other fans, or reading the great blogs like Weisman's and Petriello's, [or when Clayton's not pitching] I just have a hard time getting 'up' for the likes of the players and front office that largely make up the ' Dodgers '.

These posts remind me of talking to my best friend about breaking up w/ my GF, or wife..and hoping he'd think of something I hadn't considered, as to talk me out of it. Congrats on the Ham Fighter jersey[s], btw!

Yep, I have to say for myself, I can make a decent prime rib.   Not much left after the kiddage laid waste to it, last night.  Looks like ham sandwiches today...not that I am complaining.   The Fighters' jerseys are pretty sweet and until the McCourt fiasco is over - I am hoping that January 12 is his last gasp - they will be the jersey for the season.  Mind you, my shopping cart at mlb.com is pretty full of new jerseys, just waiting for the other shoe to drop and I can click the process order button.   I did break my rule on buying Dodger swag, though.  The girls each got an Oeltjen jersey because I cannot say no to them and they do not get the "McCourt Sucks" vitriol.  

Merry Christmas everyone, and any other religious celebrations represented, I hope that all of you had great days with your families, friends, and with food. 

jWerthfan said:

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

All I want for Christmas is the end of the McCourt era and an honest, rich owner who cares about the Dodgers tradition and wants to build a winner.

Is that too much to ask?    

[-O<

Sounds like my Christmas wish, also.    Was up at four in the morning, kicking Katja out of her room so we could get her furniture built.   Only took us five hours.   Just waiting for two of the kiddage to wake up to open gifts.   Mary made breakfast and we are impressed, Belgian waffles, old fashioned whipped cream and strawberries.  Quality eats.  

Hopefully, we can get the festivities done because Mary's cousins (just arrived the other day) and they want to see a couple movies and go to a beer pub.  Seeing as how there are no games until tonight, I think we can get in a couple movies, if they are not long. 

My mom is 85 yrs old, and still makes the best potato salad by miles over any I've ever tasted. Since I moved back to Va a year and a half ago, I've come home two Christmases [sp?] in a row with about a half gallon. That, my parents health, and the celebration of the birth of Jesus makes for a very good gift every year.

Along the geographic topic, are any of you fellow Dodger guys converts from another team?  In all honesty, I've been wondering if I could break a lifelong tie with the Dodgers, and jump ship. Outside Kershaw and Lopes, I just don't feel the pull much any longer - the Dodgers are populated almost totally with people I just really don't care about - players and non, but not rooting for the uniform any longer would represent a major breakup. The Nats are a 2 1/2 hour drive from here. They seem to be on the verge of something real good, and theres that Werth guy in the outfield.

Of course, there needs to be a Nationals equivalent to BBWC and MSTI before any change takes place....

If you don’t feel the pull much I guess it is time to
consider switching but I sure never felt that way.  I’ve never thought of myself of rooting for
the uniform but no matter how bad the team has been there are always at least a
few players I’ve felt attached to that have provided the continuity.  I had just become a rabid Dodgers fan as a
kid in NY when they moved from Brooklyn.  If I was ever going to give up rooting for
them that was the time.  There was no
internet, no game of the week, not even any NY NL team so there was no way to
watch them for many years.  I was left to
trying to listen to games on clear nights when they played the Phillies,
Pirates Reds and sometimes Cubs.  The
radio reception was so poor that the sound drifted in and out.  To make it worse, the games in those days all
started at 11PM NY time.  A few years
later the Mets were created so at least I could see them live several times a
year in NY.  Then came the game of the
week and much later the ability to see or hear all games on cable or internet
anywhere in the country.  I’ve been a
Dodgers fan now for more than 50 years and have never lived anywhere other than
on the east coast all that time.  If I
didn’t give up being a Dodgers fan back then I can’t imagine I ever will, no
matter how hard McCreep and his cretin GM try to force me away.

I hope you all had a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah or are otherwise enjoying this holiday season.

beefchopper said:

jWerthfan said:

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

All I want for Christmas is the end of the McCourt era and an honest, rich owner who cares about the Dodgers tradition and wants to build a winner.

Is that too much to ask?    

[-O<

Sounds like my Christmas wish, also.    Was up at four in the morning, kicking Katja out of her room so we could get her furniture built.   Only took us five hours.   Just waiting for two of the kiddage to wake up to open gifts.   Mary made breakfast and we are impressed, Belgian waffles, old fashioned whipped cream and strawberries.  Quality eats.  

Hopefully, we can get the festivities done because Mary's cousins (just arrived the other day) and they want to see a couple movies and go to a beer pub.  Seeing as how there are no games until tonight, I think we can get in a couple movies, if they are not long. 

My mom is 85 yrs old, and still makes the best potato salad by miles over any I've ever tasted. Since I moved back to Va a year and a half ago, I've come home two Christmases [sp?] in a row with about a half gallon. That, my parents health, and the celebration of the birth of Jesus makes for a very good gift every year.

Along the geographic topic, are any of you fellow Dodger guys converts from another team?  In all honesty, I've been wondering if I could break a lifelong tie with the Dodgers, and jump ship. Outside Kershaw and Lopes, I just don't feel the pull much any longer - the Dodgers are populated almost totally with people I just really don't care about - players and non, but not rooting for the uniform any longer would represent a major breakup. The Nats are a 2 1/2 hour drive from here. They seem to be on the verge of something real good, and theres that Werth guy in the outfield.

Of course, there needs to be a Nationals equivalent to BBWC and MSTI before any change takes place....

If you don’t feel the pull much I guess it is time to
consider switching but I sure never felt that way.  I’ve never thought of myself of rooting for
the uniform but no matter how bad the team has been there are always at least a
few players I’ve felt attached to that have provided the continuity.  I had just become a rabid Dodgers fan as a
kid in NY when they moved from Brooklyn.  If I was ever going to give up rooting for
them that was the time.  There was no
internet, no game of the week, not even any NY NL team so there was no way to
watch them for many years.  I was left to
trying to listen to games on clear nights when they played the Phillies,
Pirates Reds and sometimes Cubs.  The
radio reception was so poor that the sound drifted in and out.  To make it worse, the games in those days all
started at 11PM NY time.  A few years
later the Mets were created so at least I could see them live several times a
year in NY.  Then came the game of the
week and much later the ability to see or hear all games on cable or internet
anywhere in the country.  I’ve been a
Dodgers fan now for more than 50 years and have never lived anywhere other than
on the east coast all that time.  If I
didn’t give up being a Dodgers fan back then I can’t imagine I ever will, no
matter how hard McCreep and his cretin GM try to force me away.

I hope you all had a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah or are otherwise enjoying this holiday season.

Many a night as a kid I was busted by my parents for having my small transistor radio - a Christmas gift - underneath my pillow, listening to Harry Carey on....was it KMOX? In St Louis, before his Cubs days, and before transistor radios had an earphone jack. You bet, the signal drifted in and out to sw Virginia, and I can't remember that I ever made it awake to the end of a game. But I do think I remember hearing the call when a Dodger rookie first baseman named Dick Nen hit a home run in his first ML at bat. I'm fairly certain, but I'm a few laps past 50 also.

jWerthfan said:

beefchopper said:

jWerthfan said:

grabarkewitz said:

SamAdams said:

All I want for Christmas is the end of the McCourt era and an honest, rich owner who cares about the Dodgers tradition and wants to build a winner.

Is that too much to ask?    

[-O<

Sounds like my Christmas wish, also.    Was up at four in the morning, kicking Katja out of her room so we could get her furniture built.   Only took us five hours.   Just waiting for two of the kiddage to wake up to open gifts.   Mary made breakfast and we are impressed, Belgian waffles, old fashioned whipped cream and strawberries.  Quality eats.  

Hopefully, we can get the festivities done because Mary's cousins (just arrived the other day) and they want to see a couple movies and go to a beer pub.  Seeing as how there are no games until tonight, I think we can get in a couple movies, if they are not long. 

My mom is 85 yrs old, and still makes the best potato salad by miles over any I've ever tasted. Since I moved back to Va a year and a half ago, I've come home two Christmases [sp?] in a row with about a half gallon. That, my parents health, and the celebration of the birth of Jesus makes for a very good gift every year.

Along the geographic topic, are any of you fellow Dodger guys converts from another team?  In all honesty, I've been wondering if I could break a lifelong tie with the Dodgers, and jump ship. Outside Kershaw and Lopes, I just don't feel the pull much any longer - the Dodgers are populated almost totally with people I just really don't care about - players and non, but not rooting for the uniform any longer would represent a major breakup. The Nats are a 2 1/2 hour drive from here. They seem to be on the verge of something real good, and theres that Werth guy in the outfield.

Of course, there needs to be a Nationals equivalent to BBWC and MSTI before any change takes place....

If you don’t feel the pull much I guess it is time to
consider switching but I sure never felt that way.  I’ve never thought of myself of rooting for
the uniform but no matter how bad the team has been there are always at least a
few players I’ve felt attached to that have provided the continuity.  I had just become a rabid Dodgers fan as a
kid in NY when they moved from Brooklyn.  If I was ever going to give up rooting for
them that was the time.  There was no
internet, no game of the week, not even any NY NL team so there was no way to
watch them for many years.  I was left to
trying to listen to games on clear nights when they played the Phillies,
Pirates Reds and sometimes Cubs.  The
radio reception was so poor that the sound drifted in and out.  To make it worse, the games in those days all
started at 11PM NY time.  A few years
later the Mets were created so at least I could see them live several times a
year in NY.  Then came the game of the
week and much later the ability to see or hear all games on cable or internet
anywhere in the country.  I’ve been a
Dodgers fan now for more than 50 years and have never lived anywhere other than
on the east coast all that time.  If I
didn’t give up being a Dodgers fan back then I can’t imagine I ever will, no
matter how hard McCreep and his cretin GM try to force me away.

I hope you all had a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah or are otherwise enjoying this holiday season.

Many a night as a kid I was busted by my parents for having my small transistor radio - a Christmas gift - underneath my pillow, listening to Harry Carey on....was it KMOX? In St Louis, before his Cubs days, and before transistor radios had an earphone jack. You bet, the signal drifted in and out to sw Virginia, and I can't remember that I ever made it awake to the end of a game. But I do think I remember hearing the call when a Dodger rookie first baseman named Dick Nen hit a home run in his first ML at bat. I'm fairly certain, but I'm a few laps past 50 also.

Sounds like me.  I was lucky, I could get Jack Buck from St. Louis, Vin from the Dodgers and the Giant broadcasts on a clear night where I was living.   Got busted more often than not, especially when I was listening to Sandy pitch his perfect game.  Seventh inning, I get my radio taken away and missed probably the best pitched game of all time. 

I have a Christmas gift for all you olde board veterans.  I was trying to click on a bookmark in my browser and accidentally clicked on the wrong one.  It turned out to be a page with some posts from the olde board.  I think you may "enjoy" these memories.  I will need to split it over the few posts here:

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From:  oldbear190   4/3/2004 11:45 pm  To:  ALL  (1 of 19)    Paul DePodesta just traded two career bench players (Romano/Cabrera) for #1. A replacement for Paul Shuey: Aaron Looper was outstanding this spring. I see him, since he's a natural relief pither, as taking the spot of Shuey. #2. A terrific 2nd base prospect who rotoworld has already said may be the Blue's new 2nd basemen by season's end. Trading bench players for everyday players.... Me likey! Great job Depo!      Options  Reply

From:  scullyisgod   4/3/2004 11:48 pm  To:  oldbear190  (2 of 19)    Old bear, If evans trade Cora for A-Rod you would hate it, and conversely, if Depo traded our entire starting pitching staff for a stool sample, you would applaud it.

From:  oldbear190   4/3/2004 11:50 pm  To:  scullyisgod  (3 of 19)    Go jump on the Mariners wagon then. The head pink shirted scout works for them. I dont understand the affiniity for two bench players..... This is a terrific trade.      Options  Reply

From:  indigo27   4/4/2004 1:03 am  To:  oldbear190  (4 of 19)    >>#2. A terrific 2nd base prospect who rotoworld has already said may be the Blue's new 2nd basemen by season's end>> I thought scouting reports such as RotoWorld were subjective and as such, not desireable? Make up your mind, hypocrite!

From:  oldbear190   4/4/2004 1:23 am  To:  indigo27  (5 of 19)    Nothing is really subjective when a player this close to the big leagues is competing against the likes of Alex Cora and Joe Thurston in the big leagues. This isnt about Rotoworld projecting what a Single A pither or AA outfielder will do at the Big League level. This is about the FACTS that Antonio Perez is close the Big leagues (witness his AAA stats), AND his competition at 2nd base for the Blue is nill. DePodesta is finally rounding this Dodger organization into shape. The Big League club had too many utitlity and platoon guys, and the minor leagues were overstocked with pitching but no bats. DePo is shedding the waste (utility guys, bench players, excess minor league pitching with no future) for EVERYDAY players, something the Blue DO NOT have enough of. We now have ready for the Majors POSITION prospects at AAA.  Something we havent had there in 3 or 4 seasons. EVERYDAY players are more valuable than Benchwarmers and middle relievers, something every GM besides Dan Evans knows. DePo's getting us right on track.

Getting nostalgic for the olde board?

beefchopper said:

Getting nostalgic for the olde board?

Good times, good times.  

"The Big League club had too many utitlity and platoon guys, and the minor leagues were overstocked with pitching but no bats."

This is an OLD post?

I had forgotten how much Oldbear lubed up for DePo.

bigblaster said:

I had forgotten how much Oldbear lubed up for DePo.

He did have some serious manlove for PDP, didn't he?  Not that anything is wrong with that.  

....and a Happy New Year !