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  1.  # 691
    ocmike24:
    grabarkewitz:

    His blood smells like cologne.

    The police often question him, just because they find him interesting.

    I do not always drink beer. But when I do, I prefer Dos Equis...

  2.  # 692

    Then, you and Matthew will be fast friends. I worship at the Most Interesting Man in the World's Temple.

    If you get a chance, check out some of our old game threads, they are about. That commercial would stir up a hornet's nest everytime.

    I'll play the radio on Southern stations because Southern Belles are Hell at night...
  3.  # 693
    grabarkewitz:

    Then, you and Matthew will be fast friends. I worship at the Most Interesting Man in the World's Temple.

    If you get a chance, check out some of our old game threads, they are about. That commercial would stir up a hornet's nest everytime.

    And your talking to...

    haha. I get lost that way.

  4.  # 694
    JamesMiranda:
    grabarkewitz:

    Then, you and Matthew will be fast friends. I worship at the Most Interesting Man in the World's Temple.

    If you get a chance, check out some of our old game threads, they are about. That commercial would stir up a hornet's nest everytime.

    And your talking to...

    haha. I get lost that way.

    James, here is one of our more fun game threads - if you have time, give it a look. Keep in mind, it is nearly 300 posts long.

    http://dodgers.cc/comments.php?DiscussionID=197&page=1

    I'll play the radio on Southern stations because Southern Belles are Hell at night...
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      CommentAuthorJeff726
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2007
     # 695
    JamesMiranda:
    ocmike24:
    grabarkewitz:

    His blood smells like cologne.

    The police often question him, just because they find him interesting.

    I do not always drink beer. But when I do, I prefer Dos Equis...

    Yessir, good beer if I do say so myself. I'd love to try some Negro Modelo, too.

    God bless the EMTs, Medics, Firefighters, and all other emergency responders
  6.  # 696

    Modelo Light in the can is actually probably the best Mexican beer, but they don't sell it many places. I think I put away a good 100 or so of those in 3 days while in Cabo a few years back.

  7.  # 697
    TBoneShelby:

    Modelo Light in the can is actually probably the best Mexican beer, but they don't sell it many places. I think I put away a good 100 or so of those in 3 days while in Cabo a few years back.

    German malts are soooo good.

    Anybody German?

    Ich liebe die Deustche bier, mein menschun.

  8.  # 698
    grabarkewitz:

    His blood smells like cologne.

    AAAAKKKKK! I'm gonna poke my eyes out!

    "I know, everybody funny, now you funny too."
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      CommentAuthorTheSleaze
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007
     # 699

    Scout.com is putting out their top 50 Dodger prospect list. For those of you who might consider subscribing, do yourself a favor and keep the money in your wallet. Bill Shelley is a hack and his band of high school dropouts rarely string together coherant sentences in their 'articles.'

    Last year Shelley claimed that Jovanny Rosario projects to hit for power, making him the franchise's only five-tool prospect. This year? He's nothing more than a singles hitter. His scouting is inconsistant and his writing will test your gag reflexes.

    Makes me think the BBWC should come together and put out a real top 50 list.

  10.  # 700
    TheSleaze:

    Scout.com is putting out their top 50 Dodger prospect list. For those of you who might consider subscribing, do yourself a favor and keep the money in your wallet. Bill Shelley is a hack and his band of high school dropouts rarely string together coherant sentences in their 'articles.'

    Last year Shelley claimed that Jovanny Rosario projects to hit for power, making him the franchise's only five-tool prospect. This year? He's nothing more than a singles hitter. His scouting is inconsistant and his writing will test your gag reflexes.

    Makes me think the BBWC should come together and put out a real top 50 list.

    Well - you opened your big yap - so you have been selected to kick it off. Get busy Corey !!

    Every silver lining has a cloud.
  11.  # 701

    Bill is getting on in years. He might be suffering from the same malady as most of the BoSPiN types - short memory.

    I wanna play on the top 50, also.

    I'll play the radio on Southern stations because Southern Belles are Hell at night...
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      CommentAuthorTheSleaze
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     # 702

    Hey Torg, hit me up at outrunningthedevil@yahoo.com so we can throw some ideas around.

  13.  # 703

    #1 prospect...Clayton Kershaw.

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      CommentAuthorocmike24
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     # 704
    JamesMiranda:

    #1 prospect...Clayton Kershaw.

    Going out on a limb there, eh kid?

    Poor fella, he has no idea
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      CommentAuthorSamAdams
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     # 705
    TheSleaze:

    Scout.com is putting out their top 50 Dodger prospect list. For those of you who might consider subscribing, do yourself a favor and keep the money in your wallet. Bill Shelley is a hack and his band of high school dropouts rarely string together coherant sentences in their 'articles.'

    Last year Shelley claimed that Jovanny Rosario projects to hit for power, making him the franchise's only five-tool prospect. This year? He's nothing more than a singles hitter. His scouting is inconsistant and his writing will test your gag reflexes.

    Makes me think the BBWC should come together and put out a real top 50 list.

    Shelley is at EVERY GCL Dodgers game, and I respect his knowledge. He also has a good pipeline to the Dodgers' scouting group. He has a huge amount of trust and respect for Logan White, so that means something.

  16.  # 706
    SamAdams:
    TheSleaze:

    Scout.com is putting out their top 50 Dodger prospect list. For those of you who might consider subscribing, do yourself a favor and keep the money in your wallet. Bill Shelley is a hack and his band of high school dropouts rarely string together coherant sentences in their 'articles.'

    Last year Shelley claimed that Jovanny Rosario projects to hit for power, making him the franchise's only five-tool prospect. This year? He's nothing more than a singles hitter. His scouting is inconsistant and his writing will test your gag reflexes.

    Makes me think the BBWC should come together and put out a real top 50 list.

    Shelley is at EVERY GCL Dodgers game, and I respect his knowledge. He also has a good pipeline to the Dodgers' scouting group. He has a huge amount of trust and respect for Logan White, so that means something.

    I like Shelley, also, but after reading his scouting report the other day, it was like he changed his mind on nearly half the players. I know some players do not improve as they are supposed to, but I am wondering if there might be something clouding his judgement. Rosario, a singles hitter? He showed very nice pop in Ogden, lots of extra base hits. Maybe, there is something in Rosario's makeup that Bill is disappointed with. I expected Rosario to spend half of last season at Inland Empire or Great Lakes, but he didn't move up, which confused me somewhat.

    I'll play the radio on Southern stations because Southern Belles are Hell at night...
  17.  # 707
    ocmike24:
    JamesMiranda:

    #1 prospect...Clayton Kershaw.

    Going out on a limb there, eh kid?

    Just starting the folks off is all. :)

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      CommentAuthorBLUEFAN
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     # 708

    Jared, aka ThinkBlue116 (formerly GAGNECY03) on the Scout.com board, runs his own Dodgers blog, ThinkBlueLA. He is very much into the draft and minor league system, so is pretty knowledgeable for someone outside of the organization. He put his Top 50 up following the end of the 2007 season (October). I have noted his choices below. I also noted the website for anyone interested. It is quite a comprehensive listing. He doesn't post there every day in the off-season, just usually when something occurs, i.e. Kuroda/Jones signings, in which case he will break it down. During the season, he will note the scores and key stat lines of every game within the organization.

    ThinkBlueLA Top 50 (List from October 2007)

    01. LH Clayton Kershaw
    02. 3B Andy LaRoche
    03. RH James McDonald
    04. SS Chin-Lung Hu
    05. LH Scott Elbert
    06. 3B Josh Bell
    07. OF Andrew Lambo
    08. SS Ivan DeJesus
    09. OF Delwyn Young
    10. RH Jon Meloan
    --
    11. 3B Pedro Baez
    12. RH Chris Withrow
    13. LH Greg Miller
    14. RH Bryan Morris
    15. 3B Blake DeWitt
    16. OF Anthony Raglani
    17. LH Michael Watt
    18. OF Jamie Hoffman
    19. 3B Austin Gallagher
    20. OF Xavier Paul
    --
    21. CA Lucas May
    22. RH Justin Orenduff
    23. 1B Jaime Ortiz
    24. 2B Preston Mattingly
    25. 1B Kyle Orr
    26. OF Ryan Rogowski
    27. RH Zach Hammes
    28. OF Alfredo Silverio
    29. 2B Yosandy Garcia
    30. LH Wilfredo Diaz
    --
    31. OF Jovanny Rosario
    32. RH Danny Danielson
    33. LH Mike MeGrew
    34. LH James Adkins
    35. RH Jose Dominguez
    36. OF Scott Van Slyke
    37. RH Tim Sexton
    38. RH Justin Miller
    39. RH Steven Johnson
    40. RH Josh Wall
    --
    41. RH Javy Guerra
    42. RH Kyle Smit
    43. LH Geison Aguasviva
    44. LH Bolivar Medina
    45. 1B Corey Dunlap
    46. RH Eric Thompson
    47. RH Edwin Contreras
    48. RH Baker Fructuoso
    49. CA Kenley Jansen
    50. SS Juan Rivera
    --
    http://thinkbluela.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html
    --

    I would have guys like (see below) to the list, but overall quite comprehensive.

    OF Eric Kanaby
    LH Brent Leach
    LH Garret White
    RH Corey Wade
    RH Eric Hull

  19.  # 709
    BLUEFAN:

    48. RH Baker Fructuoso

    Now that's ripe for a nickname. Sugar Baker? I like it.

    Mike Scioscia's tragic illness - the blog! For Dodger analysis, reviews, and hilarity.
  20.  # 710
    TheSleaze:

    Scout.com is putting out their top 50 Dodger prospect list. For those of you who might consider subscribing, do yourself a favor and keep the money in your wallet. Bill Shelley is a hack and his band of high school dropouts rarely string together coherant sentences in their 'articles.'

    Last year Shelley claimed that Jovanny Rosario projects to hit for power, making him the franchise's only five-tool prospect. This year? He's nothing more than a singles hitter. His scouting is inconsistant and his writing will test your gag reflexes.

    Makes me think the BBWC should come together and put out a real top 50 list.

    Amen, I dropped some coin on a subscription a year or two ago and I couldn't have been more disappointed. They are the worst writers I've ever read, hands down. And how you don't spell check something that you're putting on the internet as official journalism is just beyond me. Like you said, it will test your gag reflexes.

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      CommentAuthorTheSleaze
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     # 711
    SamAdams:
    TheSleaze:

    Scout.com is putting out their top 50 Dodger prospect list. For those of you who might consider subscribing, do yourself a favor and keep the money in your wallet. Bill Shelley is a hack and his band of high school dropouts rarely string together coherant sentences in their 'articles.'

    Last year Shelley claimed that Jovanny Rosario projects to hit for power, making him the franchise's only five-tool prospect. This year? He's nothing more than a singles hitter. His scouting is inconsistant and his writing will test your gag reflexes.

    Makes me think the BBWC should come together and put out a real top 50 list.

    Shelley is at EVERY GCL Dodgers game, and I respect his knowledge. He also has a good pipeline to the Dodgers' scouting group. He has a huge amount of trust and respect for Logan White, so that means something.

    Sorry, Sam, but I have to disagree. Obviously, Shelley has more access than any of us. But so does Ken Rosenthal and that doesn't make him a good reporter. Shelley's scouting reports have been horrible for the last three years I've read them. One year a pitcher will have a fastball, curveball, change and the next he'll have fastball, slider, change. His reports are inconsistant and I hate that I've wasted money over there. And the fact that he surrounds himself with those other bozos makes his section of scout.com look like a poorly situated high school newspaper.

    I'd like to think that despite what limited coverage we get to these players as fans (webcast, radio, publication, some games in person) we could do a much better job with a list than the guys that make you pay to see theirs. So, Torgy and I are touching base and we'll be talking with others on the board to get opinions as well. I've also e-mailed the Dodgers' public relations and asked to interview one of Logan White, De Jon Watson, Tim Hallgren or Chris Haydock. So hopefully we can really turn this into something for this community.

  22.  # 712

    FYI -

    Sickels is set to release his Dodgers Top 20 on his website, probably tomorrow. BA did their Dodger Top 10 a couple of weeks ago, and just finished all the teams in the NL.

    Every silver lining has a cloud.
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      CommentAuthorTheSleaze
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     # 713
    BLUEFAN:

    Jared, aka ThinkBlue116 (formerly GAGNECY03) on the Scout.com board, runs his own Dodgers blog, ThinkBlueLA. He is very much into the draft and minor league system, so is pretty knowledgeable for someone outside of the organization. He put his Top 50 up following the end of the 2007 season (October). I have noted his choices below. I also noted the website for anyone interested. It is quite a comprehensive listing. He doesn't post there every day in the off-season, just usually when something occurs, i.e. Kuroda/Jones signings, in which case he will break it down. During the season, he will note the scores and key stat lines of every game within the organization.

    I like Jared and his blog and agree with him a lot more than Shelley. But keep in mind that this isn't saying that our list is better than anyone else's, I just think it could be an exciting thing for the board to have going. So we'll see where it leads.

    I'd like to ask Hag, Bluefan and anyone else who wants to share their opinion of the Dodger farm system to e-mail me at outrunningthedevil@yahoo.com. If you've watched these players or studied the farm, we'd like to get a feel for what the entire board thinks.

  24.  # 714
    kennerbuggy:

    FYI -

    Sickels is set to release his Dodgers Top 20 on his website, probably tomorrow. BA did their Dodger Top 10 a couple of weeks ago, and just finished all the teams in the NL.

    Thanks for reminding me, Ken, I have to place my order for Sickel's book. Already have the BA manual on order.

    I'll play the radio on Southern stations because Southern Belles are Hell at night...
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      CommentAuthorocmike24
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
     # 715
    Mike Scioscias tragic illness:
    BLUEFAN:

    48. RH Baker Fructuoso

    Now that's ripe for a nickname. Sugar Baker? I like it.

    Except it's Beyker.

    Poor fella, he has no idea
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      CommentAuthorBLUEFAN
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
     # 716

    The Dodger list by John Sickel's has been put off for a couple of days. Apparently he has had to deal with a few trolls/out of control posters over the last couple of days which has put him behind on the prospect book. Should be up in a couple of days he said.

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      CommentAuthor-----
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
     # 717
    I am bad.

    Corey, I've only seen Jacksonville play about 6 or 7 times the last couple of years, but I do keep up with things pretty close and I'd love to have a part in what you are doing with your list. E-mail me at voicet@bellsouth.net if I can be of assistance.

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      CommentAuthorocmike24
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2007
     # 718

    Another one that's hard to believe, but this really is the name of the Asian bistro at the minor league park in Winnipeg (Don't ask how I found out).

    Poor fella, he has no idea
  29.  # 719
    ocmike24:

    Another one that's hard to believe, but this really is the name of the Asian bistro at the minor league park in Winnipeg (Don't ask how I found out).

    How'd you find out?

    just kidding. haha. how the heck is Chin-Lung Hu by the way?

  30.  # 720

    For all our minor league guru's here is Sickel's Dodger Top 20 list:

    Los Angeles Dodgers Top 20 Prospects for 2008

    All grades are EXTREMELY PRELIMINARY and subject to change.

    Clayton Kershaw, LHP, Grade A

    Andy LaRoche, 3B, Grade A- (I still really like him)

    James McDonald, RHP, Grade B+

    Chin-Lung Hu, SS, Grade B

    Jonathan Meloan, RHP, Grade B

    Dewlyn Young, OF, Grade B-

    Chris Withrow, RHP, Grade B-

    Scott Elbert, LHP, Grade C+ (would rank higher if healthy)

    Blake DeWitt, 3B, Grade C+

    Andrew Lambo, 1B, Grade C+

    Pedro Baez, 3B, Grade C+

    Josh Bell, 3B, Grade C+

    Ivan DeJesus, SS, Grade C+

    James Adkins, LHP, Grade C+

    Xavier Paul, OF, Grade C+

    Justin Orenduff, RHP, Grade C+

    Austin Gallagher, 3B, Grade C (might rank at C+, still thinking)

    Jamie Hoffman, OF, Grade C

    Jaime Pedroza, SS, Grade C

    Ramon Troncoso, RHP, Grade C

    There are 16 other players in the book rated Grade C, all of them interchangeable in the lower spots on this list. This system took a hit from major league graduations last year, but they have the ability to recharge quickly and several of these Grade C+/C guys have strong potential at higher levels, though we need to see more information

    LaRoche may rank a notch too high at Grade A- but I still really love him.

    The story ends with me putting him in the wall!

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