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I am bad.
It's like watching me and Kyle today. I'd tend to see both points, and I think it's one of those times where you aren't that far off in what you are debating. Like I said years ago, Hu is not quite Izzy defensively (that is no knock because Izzy is still the best defensive SS in baseball today) but he's better than Izzy offensively. Going into last year, I thought a tick better, but after last year, two ticks better. I think the comparison to Pierre offensively is accurate with the speed-power exceptions noted. And if Juan Pierre could provide GG defense in CF, I'd argue to the death that he's got great value.
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CommentAuthorkennerbuggy
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008
DoppelgangBang:
kennerbuggy:
Corey - I guess we can agree to disagree.
I can readily grant that Lowrie would likely have a better SLG in the bigs than would Hu, but I still don't see how a player that has avereaged 6-9 HRs a year in the minors (which covers both Lowrie & Hu) is gonna be a 3-4-5 hitter in the show, and I fail to see how such a player could be rated an A- talent, regardless of what position he plays or how well he plays it.
IMO - in all likelihood, Lowrie will be a better #8 hitter and a poorer defensive player than Hu. You can call that over-rating Hu if you wish, but I see neither player having enough sock to be an impact bat in the bigs. Lowrie is gonna see a higher % of strikes in the bigs as he doesn't have the power to scare pitchers into missing off the plate. As such, his K/BB ratio is probably gonna get worse. Hu doesn't have the power to scare pitchers into missing off the plate and he doesn't have great plate discipline, so his K/B ratio also figures to get worse. And when it is all said and done, Lowrie will still walk and strike-out about twice as often as Hu, and he may be able to maintain an OBP above .350, while Hu might be lucky to maintain an OBP above .325. Everything else being equal, Lowrie will score more runs because he gets on base better, and Hu will drive in more runs as he makes more contact. I'd prefer the GG SS over the adequate 2B that has an OBP about 30 pts higher, with neither having much HR power or base-stealing ability. I'd make the same choice even if Lowrie proved to be an adequate SS, as I value defense more at SS than the ability to draw a couple dozen more walks.
I agree with with you, man. GG-caliber SS by itself is a valuable commodity. Lowrie sure ain't Chase Utley ... and with that said, I would certainly choose GG-caliber defense @ SS over slightly better offensive production.
Excellent comparison - Lowrie is no more Chase Utley than Hu is PayRod. I seriously doubt that Utley NEVERr hit 10 or more HRs in ANY minor league season, let alone EVERY minor league season he had.
I serously doubt Lowrie is gonna put up an OBP much higher than .350 if he doesn't have the power to hit 10+ HRs in a major league ballpark. If his MLB OBP proves to be under .350 whatever offensive advantage he has over Hu would be minimal, as neither is gonna be a MLB power hitter.
Here's a challenge - find and name the MLB hitters who put up an OPS of .350 or higher while hitting less than 10 HRs last season.
A great eye is just that - the ability to take pitches for ball four or strike 3 does not influence home run power, but home run power can influence the quality of pitches a hitter sees to where a higher % are well off the plate as that is the way most experienced pitchers would choose to err. Pretending that the batter is the only one influencing the strike zone would be ignoring that there is a guy on the rubber who has even more control of the game.
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CommentAuthorCarolinaBlues
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kennerbuggy:
Corey - I guess we can agree to disagree.
I can readily grant that Lowrie would likely have a better SLG in the bigs than would Hu, but I still don't see how a player that has avereaged 6-9 HRs a year in the minors (which covers both Lowrie & Hu) is gonna be a 3-4-5 hitter in the show, and I fail to see how such a player could be rated an A- talent, regardless of what position he plays or how well he plays it.
IMO - in all likelihood, Lowrie will be a better #8 hitter and a poorer defensive player than Hu. You can call that over-rating Hu if you wish, but I see neither player having enough sock to be an impact bat in the bigs. Lowrie is gonna see a higher % of strikes in the bigs as he doesn't have the power to scare pitchers into missing off the plate. As such, his K/BB ratio is probably gonna get worse. Hu doesn't have the power to scare pitchers into missing off the plate and he doesn't have great plate discipline, so his K/B ratio also figures to get worse. And when it is all said and done, Lowrie will still walk and strike-out about twice as often as Hu, and he may be able to maintain an OBP above .350, while Hu might be lucky to maintain an OBP above .325. Everything else being equal, Lowrie will score more runs because he gets on base better, and Hu will drive in more runs as he makes more contact. I'd prefer the GG SS over the adequate 2B that has an OBP about 30 pts higher, with neither having much HR power or base-stealing ability. I'd make the same choice even if Lowrie proved to be an adequate SS, as I value defense more at SS than the ability to draw a couple dozen more walks.
Brendt - i guess we can agree to disagree then. though if oyu want to take up a friendly bet, i'd wager a Jug of Jay's moonshine that Lowrie outproduces Hu next year
"The chance to be a general manager in major-league baseball and for a franchise as storied as this one, probably as storied as the Giants, is great." -Ned Coletti, 4/14/08
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CommentAuthorBluePastorKyle
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kennerbuggy:
Good analysis, Corey...
Corey - I guess we can agree to disagree...Man, I've been waiting a long time for KB to do that. And he did it TWICE inside an hour.
Where's Aarlan and Aalston when I need 'em? 'Lil help, TBone?
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CommentAuthorBluePastorKyle
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ceyheyjay:
It's like watching me and Kyle today.
Yeah, but we're better looking.
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CommentAuthorCarolinaBlues
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2008 edited
BluePastorKyle:
ceyheyjay:
It's like watching me and Kyle today.
Yeah, but we're better looking.
i blame KB for messing up the average on that one...
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I am bad.
I don't know what to tell the both of ya, cause there's a whole lot of ugly in that competition.
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CommentAuthorgrabarkewitz
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Okay, fools and charlatans, I am back. Am I gonna have to print up a scorecard so the fans can tell who the players are? I will explain the absence in the S&M, but a nice argument about Hu and Lowrie. Personally, I think Lowrie is heavily over rated. His range (at least at Stanford) was Karroslike and he had limited pop. Of course, I prefer Hu over Lowrie because of the glove and potential to have more pop. Usually, I will defer to Sickels, but he was very wrong on Loney, two years ago and he was way off base on Kemp during the same time frame. I think he expects young hitters to be fully developed by the time they hit AA. Nothing could be farther from reality.
Been keeping up as best as possible with doings in Vero. Looks like Torre is not letting salary figures decide his team.
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CommentAuthorkennerbuggy
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BluePastorKyle:
kennerbuggy:
Good analysis, Corey...
Corey - I guess we can agree to disagree...Man, I've been waiting a long time for KB to do that. And he did it TWICE inside an hour.
Where's Aarlan and Aalston when I need 'em? 'Lil help, TBone?
It must be our old minor league ace pitcher that gets me confused - Bryan Corey !
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CommentAuthorTBoneShelby
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BluePastorKyle:
kennerbuggy:
Good analysis, Corey...
Corey - I guess we can agree to disagree...Man, I've been waiting a long time for KB to do that. And he did it TWICE inside an hour.
Where's Aarlan and Aalston when I need 'em? 'Lil help, TBone?
I'm totally lost bud, I am so sorry!
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CarolinaBlues:
kennerbuggy:
maybe i am just going with my gut too, and maybe i am overly hard on Dodgers prospects because i dont want to be afflicted with chronic homer-ism, like jay, who is going to be rooting for Miller long after his arm falls off…
Hahaha! ZING!
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CommentAuthorBluePastorKyle
- CommentTimeFeb 26th 2008
TBoneShelby:
BluePastorKyle:
kennerbuggy:
Good analysis, Corey...
Corey - I guess we can agree to disagree...Man, I've been waiting a long time for KB to do that. And he did it TWICE inside an hour.
Where's Aarlan and Aalston when I need 'em? 'Lil help, TBone?
I'm totally lost bud, I am so sorry!
That's alright, Derek. I won't bore you with too many details, but in a game thread last season, I called Aalston "Aarlan" a couple times, and KB had fun. And indeed, it was funny... He started calling True2daBlue "TBone" and other close names by others, and so on. You kinda had to be there, but we were in tears... So I've been waiting to razz him for the same thing ever since.
Now back to your regularly scheduled ribbing, already in progress...
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[quote][cite] BluePastorKyle:[/cite][quote][cite] TBoneShelby:[/cite][quote][cite] BluePastorKyle:[/cite][quote][cite] kennerbuggy:[/cite]Good analysis, Corey...
Corey - I guess we can agree to disagree...
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That's alright, Derek. I won't bore you with too many details, but in a game thread last season, I called Aalston "Aarlan" a couple times, and KB had fun. And indeed, it was funny... He started calling True2daBlue "TBone" and other close names by others, and so on. You kinda had to be there, but we were in tears... So I've been waiting to razz him for the same thing ever since.Now back to your regularly scheduled ribbing, already in progress...[/quote]
Yes, but there are certain ones of us who are SO unique that we don't get confused with anyone else. Isn't that right Brendt....I mean Kyle.
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Wait... Is Carolina's name Corey too? That should get confusing. I was here first! Isn't there something in the BBWC bylaws about this? If not, I'm now known as Torgy.
Off-topic note: I just finished seasons 1-3 of HBO's cancelled show Deadwood. I recommend it to everyone and anyone. Amazing show, despite the lack of a real conclusion. I can't decide on what I should go with next; The Wire or Lost.
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CommentAuthorgrabarkewitz
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TheSleaze:
Wait... Is Carolina's name Corey too? That should get confusing. I was here first! Isn't there something in the BBWC bylaws about this? If not, I'm now known as Torgy.
Off-topic note: I just finished seasons 1-3 of HBO's cancelled show Deadwood. I recommend it to everyone and anyone. Amazing show, despite the lack of a real conclusion. I can't decide on what I should go with next; The Wire or Lost.
Carolina is better known as Bryan. I think we only have one Corey. I concur on Deadwood. Like KB and others on this board, we were addicted the first time Al started dropping f-bombs. Belay that Torgy talk, I have trademarked that name, continue using it and you will hear from my shysters.
I'll play the radio on Southern stations because Southern Belles are Hell at night...
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CommentAuthorTBoneShelby
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TheSleaze:
Wait... Is Carolina's name Corey too? That should get confusing. I was here first! Isn't there something in the BBWC bylaws about this? If not, I'm now known as Torgy.
Off-topic note: I just finished seasons 1-3 of HBO's cancelled show Deadwood. I recommend it to everyone and anyone. Amazing show, despite the lack of a real conclusion. I can't decide on what I should go with next; The Wire or Lost.
They lost me in season 2. Season 1 was amazing and Wild Bill was a great character, but season 2 just lacked any true interesting story line IMO. I want to join the Wire bandwagon, but isn't it in like season 5 or 6 by now? There will be no 24 this season, and I haven't heard anything about the Unit so this may be a long year.
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CommentAuthorgrabarkewitz
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TBoneShelby:
TheSleaze:
Wait... Is Carolina's name Corey too? That should get confusing. I was here first! Isn't there something in the BBWC bylaws about this? If not, I'm now known as Torgy.
Off-topic note: I just finished seasons 1-3 of HBO's cancelled show Deadwood. I recommend it to everyone and anyone. Amazing show, despite the lack of a real conclusion. I can't decide on what I should go with next; The Wire or Lost.
They lost me in season 2. Season 1 was amazing and Wild Bill was a great character, but season 2 just lacked any true interesting story line IMO. I want to join the Wire bandwagon, but isn't it in like season 5 or 6 by now? There will be no 24 this season, and I haven't heard anything about the Unit so this may be a long year.
With the exception of Lost, there isn't much on the tube that gets me all happy. Yeah, I can watch Torchwood on BBCAmerica, but that is an acquired taste and some may be turned off by the show and it's somewhat hokiness. Tried to get into In Treatment, but it was so much whining. I am hoping that Dirty Sexy Money comes back shortly and I could use a Heroes fix, but it looks like that won't come until next year. Stupid strike. Had big hopes for the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Jericho, but both seem to be thrown together on spit and a promise. Both could be better, but it looks like they were both written by six year olds.
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CommentAuthorTBoneShelby
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grabarkewitz:
TBoneShelby:
TheSleaze:
Wait... Is Carolina's name Corey too? That should get confusing. I was here first! Isn't there something in the BBWC bylaws about this? If not, I'm now known as Torgy.
Off-topic note: I just finished seasons 1-3 of HBO's cancelled show Deadwood. I recommend it to everyone and anyone. Amazing show, despite the lack of a real conclusion. I can't decide on what I should go with next; The Wire or Lost.
They lost me in season 2. Season 1 was amazing and Wild Bill was a great character, but season 2 just lacked any true interesting story line IMO. I want to join the Wire bandwagon, but isn't it in like season 5 or 6 by now? There will be no 24 this season, and I haven't heard anything about the Unit so this may be a long year.
With the exception of Lost, there isn't much on the tube that gets me all happy. Yeah, I can watch Torchwood on BBCAmerica, but that is an acquired taste and some may be turned off by the show and it's somewhat hokiness. Tried to get into In Treatment, but it was so much whining. I am hoping that Dirty Sexy Money comes back shortly and I could use a Heroes fix, but it looks like that won't come until next year. Stupid strike. Had big hopes for the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Jericho, but both seem to be thrown together on spit and a promise. Both could be better, but it looks like they were both written by six year olds.
Your last line sums up just about every show that I've been trying to get into. Sarah Conner was very disappointing and John from Cincinnati was well; interesting.
I'm waiting for the John Adams show or miniseries that HBO is promo'ing, as well as the return of Entourage although that show is less than 30 minutes which is pathetic. Other than that, there just really isn't too much, and like you said the writing is just awful these days.
Okay, wish me luck I'm off for what hopefully is my final interview for this position that I'm trying very hard to get!
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CommentAuthorkennerbuggy
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BA came out with their top 100 list today. Four Dodgers made it - Kershaw (#7), La Roche (#31). CL Hu (#55) and Elbert (#88).
Linking back to my Hu vs. Lowrie brou-ha-ha, Lowrie came in at #73, indicating that the BA crew likes Hu a bit more as well.
The Dodgers placed about as many guys as any team thru Hu at #55, but the Rays, BoSox, Bravos, Rox had more guys in the 2nd half of the list. The Rays & BoSox each placed 7 guys, and the A's, Bravos, Cubbies, hO's, Strangers, Reds & Rox placed 5 each. The Halos & Yanks matched the Dodger total. So, this better illustrates how the BoSox have a stronger system than the Dodgers than my simple comparison of Hu vs. Lowrie.
DeWitt, Kuroda & Withrow made the "Just Missed" list, with Withrow having one of the highest individual ratings from 1 of the 4 BA guys to not make the 100 composite list. No mention of McDonald.
John Manual, who did the chat, mentioned Withrow as being one of the guys most likely to break into the Top 100 next year.
The ratings seem appropriate to me, although I am surprised at no love for McDonald even on the "Just missed" list. DeWitt is about where he should be, as IMO he is yet to actually produce as expected. Most of the other Dodger players that BA had in our top 12 seem further away development-wise.
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CommentAuthorBabe Herman
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grabarkewitz:
TBoneShelby:
TheSleaze:
Wait... Is Carolina's name Corey too? That should get confusing. I was here first! Isn't there something in the BBWC bylaws about this? If not, I'm now known as Torgy.
Off-topic note: I just finished seasons 1-3 of HBO's cancelled show Deadwood. I recommend it to everyone and anyone. Amazing show, despite the lack of a real conclusion. I can't decide on what I should go with next; The Wire or Lost.
They lost me in season 2. Season 1 was amazing and Wild Bill was a great character, but season 2 just lacked any true interesting story line IMO. I want to join the Wire bandwagon, but isn't it in like season 5 or 6 by now? There will be no 24 this season, and I haven't heard anything about the Unit so this may be a long year.
With the exception of Lost, there isn't much on the tube that gets me all happy. Yeah, I can watch Torchwood on BBCAmerica, but that is an acquired taste and some may be turned off by the show and it's somewhat hokiness. Tried to get into In Treatment, but it was so much whining. I am hoping that Dirty Sexy Money comes back shortly and I could use a Heroes fix, but it looks like that won't come until next year. Stupid strike. Had big hopes for the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Jericho, but both seem to be thrown together on spit and a promise. Both could be better, but it looks like they were both written by six year olds.
When I heard the premise for Jericho, I was pretty excited. Then the reality of the show set in. I really tried to watch it, but they blew it. More of a bad soap opera than anything else I could compare it to. I wasn't on that bandwagon to bring the show back when it was canceled the first time. Very disappointing.
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Carolina is better known as Bryan. I think we only have one Corey. I concur on Deadwood. Like KB and others on this board, we were addicted the first time Al started dropping f-bombs. Belay that Torgy talk, I have trademarked that name, continue using it and you will hear from my shysters.
Yeah, Al was an amazing character. I didn't like how he was turning into a good guy during season two, but season three made that make sense, as Hearst was an amazing villain as well. Fantastic series and I hope they follow through with the two two-hour "movies" to wrap the series up. My second favorite show, only to The West Wing.
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With the exception of Lost, there isn't much on the tube that gets me all happy. Yeah, I can watch Torchwood on BBCAmerica, but that is an acquired taste and some may be turned off by the show and it's somewhat hokiness. Tried to get into In Treatment, but it was so much whining. I am hoping that Dirty Sexy Money comes back shortly and I could use a Heroes fix, but it looks like that won't come until next year. Stupid strike. Had big hopes for the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Jericho, but both seem to be thrown together on spit and a promise. Both could be better, but it looks like they were both written by six year olds.
Yeah, I have to get in on Lost and The Wire. I have the first two seasons of Rome sitting on the shelf, but I haven't watched them yet. I love it when I get into a show when they're 5 or 6 seasons in already. I did it with almost every series I love and thank God for it because when I get into something, I'll sit and watch it until it's over. Eight hours of Sopranos? Okay!
I watched some In Treatment, but I can't watch every episode, which bothers me, so I stopped. John From Cinncinatti was horrible and I quit about half way through. I can't believe HBO is bringing that back over Deadwood. I liked what I saw from Journeyman, but it was cancelled in a hurry. The one new show I love is Breaking Bad. If you have a chance, check that one out. Curb Your Enthusiasm is one of the funniest shows in a long time.
It seems like network television just blows now. I stick with HBO, for the most part.
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CommentAuthorgrabarkewitz
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TheSleaze:
grabarkewitz:
With the exception of Lost, there isn't much on the tube that gets me all happy. Yeah, I can watch Torchwood on BBCAmerica, but that is an acquired taste and some may be turned off by the show and it's somewhat hokiness. Tried to get into In Treatment, but it was so much whining. I am hoping that Dirty Sexy Money comes back shortly and I could use a Heroes fix, but it looks like that won't come until next year. Stupid strike. Had big hopes for the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Jericho, but both seem to be thrown together on spit and a promise. Both could be better, but it looks like they were both written by six year olds.
Yeah, I have to get in on Lost and The Wire. I have the first two seasons of Rome sitting on the shelf, but I haven't watched them yet. I love it when I get into a show when they're 5 or 6 seasons in already. I did it with almost every series I love and thank God for it because when I get into something, I'll sit and watch it until it's over. Eight hours of Sopranos? Okay!
I watched some In Treatment, but I can't watch every episode, which bothers me, so I stopped. John From Cinncinatti was horrible and I quit about half way through. I can't believe HBO is bringing that back over Deadwood. I liked what I saw from Journeyman, but it was cancelled in a hurry. The one new show I love is Breaking Bad. If you have a chance, check that one out. Curb Your Enthusiasm is one of the funniest shows in a long time.
It seems like network television just blows now. I stick with HBO, for the most part.
I tried to watch Breaking Bad, Bryan Cranston is a great comedic actor, but I hate how AMC loads commercials in every broadcast. If I want commercials, I will watch Deal, Or No Deal. John from Cincinnati got way too preachy and lost me. I have tried to watch the Wire, but I expected Oz and didn't get it.
When it comes to network TV, with the exception of Two & a Half Men, Law & Order and Lost, there isn't a helluva lot to watch. Even CSI has become pablum. Is it any wonder that what is on my TV the most is either sports or in Japanese? Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.
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CommentAuthorMike Scioscias tragic illness
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grabarkewitz:
TheSleaze:
grabarkewitz:
With the exception of Lost, there isn't much on the tube that gets me all happy. Yeah, I can watch Torchwood on BBCAmerica, but that is an acquired taste and some may be turned off by the show and it's somewhat hokiness. Tried to get into In Treatment, but it was so much whining. I am hoping that Dirty Sexy Money comes back shortly and I could use a Heroes fix, but it looks like that won't come until next year. Stupid strike. Had big hopes for the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Jericho, but both seem to be thrown together on spit and a promise. Both could be better, but it looks like they were both written by six year olds.
Yeah, I have to get in on Lost and The Wire. I have the first two seasons of Rome sitting on the shelf, but I haven't watched them yet. I love it when I get into a show when they're 5 or 6 seasons in already. I did it with almost every series I love and thank God for it because when I get into something, I'll sit and watch it until it's over. Eight hours of Sopranos? Okay!
I watched some In Treatment, but I can't watch every episode, which bothers me, so I stopped. John From Cinncinatti was horrible and I quit about half way through. I can't believe HBO is bringing that back over Deadwood. I liked what I saw from Journeyman, but it was cancelled in a hurry. The one new show I love is Breaking Bad. If you have a chance, check that one out. Curb Your Enthusiasm is one of the funniest shows in a long time.
It seems like network television just blows now. I stick with HBO, for the most part.
I tried to watch Breaking Bad, Bryan Cranston is a great comedic actor, but I hate how AMC loads commercials in every broadcast. If I want commercials, I will watch Deal, Or No Deal. John from Cincinnati got way too preachy and lost me. I have tried to watch the Wire, but I expected Oz and didn't get it.
When it comes to network TV, with the exception of Two & a Half Men, Law & Order and Lost, there isn't a helluva lot to watch. Even CSI has become pablum. Is it any wonder that what is on my TV the most is either sports or in Japanese? Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.
I've been digging Breaking Bad. Actually, the first 2-3 were great, the last two were pretty boring in my opinion. I'm way more interested in the "lame high school chemistry teacher becomes drug dealer to provide for his family" angle than the "lame high school chemistry teacher comes to grips with lung cancer" angle.
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CommentAuthorDoppelgangBang
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Mike Scioscias tragic illness:
grabarkewitz:
TheSleaze:
grabarkewitz:
With the exception of Lost, there isn't much on the tube that gets me all happy. Yeah, I can watch Torchwood on BBCAmerica, but that is an acquired taste and some may be turned off by the show and it's somewhat hokiness. Tried to get into In Treatment, but it was so much whining. I am hoping that Dirty Sexy Money comes back shortly and I could use a Heroes fix, but it looks like that won't come until next year. Stupid strike. Had big hopes for the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Jericho, but both seem to be thrown together on spit and a promise. Both could be better, but it looks like they were both written by six year olds.
Yeah, I have to get in on Lost and The Wire. I have the first two seasons of Rome sitting on the shelf, but I haven't watched them yet. I love it when I get into a show when they're 5 or 6 seasons in already. I did it with almost every series I love and thank God for it because when I get into something, I'll sit and watch it until it's over. Eight hours of Sopranos? Okay!
I watched some In Treatment, but I can't watch every episode, which bothers me, so I stopped. John From Cinncinatti was horrible and I quit about half way through. I can't believe HBO is bringing that back over Deadwood. I liked what I saw from Journeyman, but it was cancelled in a hurry. The one new show I love is Breaking Bad. If you have a chance, check that one out. Curb Your Enthusiasm is one of the funniest shows in a long time.
It seems like network television just blows now. I stick with HBO, for the most part.
I tried to watch Breaking Bad, Bryan Cranston is a great comedic actor, but I hate how AMC loads commercials in every broadcast. If I want commercials, I will watch Deal, Or No Deal. John from Cincinnati got way too preachy and lost me. I have tried to watch the Wire, but I expected Oz and didn't get it.
When it comes to network TV, with the exception of Two & a Half Men, Law & Order and Lost, there isn't a helluva lot to watch. Even CSI has become pablum. Is it any wonder that what is on my TV the most is either sports or in Japanese? Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.
I've been digging Breaking Bad. Actually, the first 2-3 were great, the last two were pretty boring in my opinion. I'm way more interested in the "lame high school chemistry teacher becomes drug dealer to provide for his family" angle than the "lame high school chemistry teacher comes to grips with lung cancer" angle.
Have any of you seen the 70s/80s show "The White Shadow" .... I keep hearing a lot of hoopla around it and it's being rerun on NBATV now ... any thoughts?
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[quote][cite] DoppelgangBang:[/cite][quote][cite] Mike Scioscias tragic illness:[/cite][quote][cite] grabarkewitz:[/cite][quote][cite] TheSleaze:[/cite][quote][cite] grabarkewitz:[/cite]With the exception of Lost, there isn't much on the tube that gets me all happy. Yeah, I can watch Torchwood on BBCAmerica, but that is an acquired taste and some may be turned off by the show and it's somewhat hokiness. Tried to get into In Treatment, but it was so much whining. I am hoping that Dirty Sexy Money comes back shortly and I could use a Heroes fix, but it looks like that won't come until next year. Stupid strike. Had big hopes for the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Jericho, but both seem to be thrown together on spit and a promise. Both could be better, but it looks like they were both written by six year olds.[/quote]
Yeah, I have to get in on Lost and The Wire. I have the first two seasons of Rome sitting on the shelf, but I haven't watched them yet. I love it when I get into a show when they're 5 or 6 seasons in already. I did it with almost every series I love and thank God for it because when I get into something, I'll sit and watch it until it's over. Eight hours of Sopranos? Okay!
I watched some In Treatment, but I can't watch every episode, which bothers me, so I stopped. John From Cinncinatti was horrible and I quit about half way through. I can't believe HBO is bringing that back over Deadwood. I liked what I saw from Journeyman, but it was cancelled in a hurry. The one new show I love is Breaking Bad. If you have a chance, check that one out. Curb Your Enthusiasm is one of the funniest shows in a long time.
It seems like network television just blows now. I stick with HBO, for the most part.[/quote]
I tried to watch Breaking Bad, Bryan Cranston is a great comedic actor, but I hate how AMC loads commercials in every broadcast. If I want commercials, I will watch Deal, Or No Deal. John from Cincinnati got way too preachy and lost me. I have tried to watch the Wire, but I expected Oz and didn't get it.
When it comes to network TV, with the exception of Two & a Half Men, Law & Order and Lost, there isn't a helluva lot to watch. Even CSI has become pablum. Is it any wonder that what is on my TV the most is either sports or in Japanese? Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.[/quote]
I've been digging Breaking Bad. Actually, the first 2-3 were great, the last two were pretty boring in my opinion. I'm way more interested in the "lame high school chemistry teacher becomes drug dealer to provide for his family" angle than the "lame high school chemistry teacher comes to grips with lung cancer" angle.[/quote]
Have any of you seen the 70s/80s show "The White Shadow" .... I keep hearing a lot of hoopla around it and it's being rerun on NBATV now ... any thoughts?[/quote]
I don't know about these other shows ya'll have been talking about, but I know The White Shadow. I liked that show a lot. Coolidge and the gang. Good stuff.
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CommentAuthorkennerbuggy
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2008
ceyheyjay:
DoppelgangBang:
Mike Scioscias tragic illness:
grabarkewitz:
TheSleaze:
grabarkewitz:
With the exception of Lost, there isn't much on the tube that gets me all happy. Yeah, I can watch Torchwood on BBCAmerica, but that is an acquired taste and some may be turned off by the show and it's somewhat hokiness. Tried to get into In Treatment, but it was so much whining. I am hoping that Dirty Sexy Money comes back shortly and I could use a Heroes fix, but it looks like that won't come until next year. Stupid strike. Had big hopes for the Sarah Connor Chronicles and Jericho, but both seem to be thrown together on spit and a promise. Both could be better, but it looks like they were both written by six year olds.
Yeah, I have to get in on Lost and The Wire. I have the first two seasons of Rome sitting on the shelf, but I haven't watched them yet. I love it when I get into a show when they're 5 or 6 seasons in already. I did it with almost every series I love and thank God for it because when I get into something, I'll sit and watch it until it's over. Eight hours of Sopranos? Okay!
I watched some In Treatment, but I can't watch every episode, which bothers me, so I stopped. John From Cinncinatti was horrible and I quit about half way through. I can't believe HBO is bringing that back over Deadwood. I liked what I saw from Journeyman, but it was cancelled in a hurry. The one new show I love is Breaking Bad. If you have a chance, check that one out. Curb Your Enthusiasm is one of the funniest shows in a long time.
It seems like network television just blows now. I stick with HBO, for the most part.
I tried to watch Breaking Bad, Bryan Cranston is a great comedic actor, but I hate how AMC loads commercials in every broadcast. If I want commercials, I will watch Deal, Or No Deal. John from Cincinnati got way too preachy and lost me. I have tried to watch the Wire, but I expected Oz and didn't get it.
When it comes to network TV, with the exception of Two & a Half Men, Law & Order and Lost, there isn't a helluva lot to watch. Even CSI has become pablum. Is it any wonder that what is on my TV the most is either sports or in Japanese? Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.
I've been digging Breaking Bad. Actually, the first 2-3 were great, the last two were pretty boring in my opinion. I'm way more interested in the "lame high school chemistry teacher becomes drug dealer to provide for his family" angle than the "lame high school chemistry teacher comes to grips with lung cancer" angle.
Have any of you seen the 70s/80s show "The White Shadow" .... I keep hearing a lot of hoopla around it and it's being rerun on NBATV now ... any thoughts?
I don't know about these other shows ya'll have been talking about, but I know The White Shadow. I liked that show a lot. Coolidge and the gang. Good stuff.
The actor that played the coach, The White Shadow, has a key role in "Michael Clayton" and boy has he gotten old. His name in Ken Howard.
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grabarkewitz:
Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.
I don't watch ESPN anymore. I've watched maybe 15 minutes of it since the baseball season ended. SportsCenter is complete garbage, as is their other programming. I get my sports news off of the internet or a regional FSN network.
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The only thing I watch on ESPN is SportsCenter during baseball season and Baseball Tonight, all taken with a grain of salt.
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CommentAuthorgrabarkewitz
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2008
TheSleaze:
grabarkewitz:
Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.
I don't watch ESPN anymore. I've watched maybe 15 minutes of it since the baseball season ended. SportsCenter is complete garbage, as is their other programming. I get my sports news off of the internet or a regional FSN network.
I get my sports fix from ESPN News and hopefully Cindy Brunson. Can't sit through much of FSN's programming and SportsCenter is a travesty. Thankfully, the NFL Draft will be broadcast by the NFL Network and I won't have to listen to Berman and his gaggle of idiots. I did get one bit of good news, Sean Salisbury was shown the door by BoSPiN. Maybe BoSPiN is getting the clue and will get rid of the fools, cretins and sub-humans. The minute they fire Stephen A. Smith, I celebrate. Man says less in ten minutes than any politician I have ever listened to.
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