The Bill Shelley Memorial Farm Thread

grabarkewitz:

I get my sports fix from ESPN News and hopefully Cindy Brunson. Can't sit through much of FSN's programming and SportsCenter is a travesty. Thankfully, the NFL Draft will be broadcast by the NFL Network and I won't have to listen to Berman and his gaggle of idiots. I did get one bit of good news, Sean Salisbury was shown the door by BoSPiN. Maybe BoSPiN is getting the clue and will get rid of the fools, cretins and sub-humans...

I hate to state the obvious (and thereby take away the only 'breaking news' Jay ever has), but if that happened . . . Bristol would be less populated than a ghost town.

JamesMiranda:

grabarkewitz:

TheSleaze:

grabarkewitz:

Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.

I don't watch ESPN anymore. I've watched maybe 15 minutes of it since the baseball season ended. SportsCenter is complete garbage, as is their other programming. I get my sports news off of the internet or a regional FSN network.

I get my sports fix from ESPN News and hopefully Cindy Brunson. Can't sit through much of FSN's programming and SportsCenter is a travesty. Thankfully, the NFL Draft will be broadcast by the NFL Network and I won't have to listen to Berman and his gaggle of idiots. I did get one bit of good news, Sean Salisbury was shown the door by BoSPiN. Maybe BoSPiN is getting the clue and will get rid of the fools, cretins and sub-humans. The minute they fire Stephen A. Smith, I celebrate. Man says less in ten minutes than any politician I have ever listened to.

Don't forget Skip Bayless.

He is the worst of all time, he has leaped past Joe Morgan, 570's Hartman, all the Padres' announcers, and Chris (I use my voice in differing baratones for effect) Berman. Man, there are a few more, but for time-sake; Bayless is the biggest moron of them all.

ceyheyjay:

Kyle, a new thread doesn't have to be started. We've already got an idiots thread; stuff just gets side-tracked in other areas.

In an attempt to get us back on track, Kershaw apparently impressed the brass yesterday and he and Torre met face-to-face. I still am hoping we don't rush him this year. I think everyone is hoping we won't need to.

I read that also. You could practically see Torre drooling in the story. I am tempted to check Benny the Jackass's thread at the Auld Board to see if more info can be gleaned. Something like how hard Kershaw was throwing, the shape of his curve, the changeup, his plans for his first $100 million contract...

JamesMiranda:

TBoneShelby:

JamesMiranda:

grabarkewitz:

TheSleaze:

grabarkewitz:

Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.

I don't watch ESPN anymore. I've watched maybe 15 minutes of it since the baseball season ended. SportsCenter is complete garbage, as is their other programming. I get my sports news off of the internet or a regional FSN network.

I get my sports fix from ESPN News and hopefully Cindy Brunson. Can't sit through much of FSN's programming and SportsCenter is a travesty. Thankfully, the NFL Draft will be broadcast by the NFL Network and I won't have to listen to Berman and his gaggle of idiots. I did get one bit of good news, Sean Salisbury was shown the door by BoSPiN. Maybe BoSPiN is getting the clue and will get rid of the fools, cretins and sub-humans. The minute they fire Stephen A. Smith, I celebrate. Man says less in ten minutes than any politician I have ever listened to.

Don't forget Skip Bayless.

He is the worst of all time, he has leaped past Joe Morgan, 570's Hartman, all the Padres' announcers, and Chris (I use my voice in differing baratones for effect) Berman. Man, there are a few more, but for time-sake; Bayless is the biggest moron of them all.

Yea. I sat down and watched his show 1 and 10 yesterday and this is how he starts his show: "for the record, I'm always right and you are wrong and sometimes we'll agree." such a hateful personality.

Bayless was a clown writer for the Chronicle, but even they have standards. I have seen the idiot on ESPN2, but I usually find that when he comes on, I have something to do or need to find something to do.

JamesMiranda:

grabarkewitz:

JamesMiranda:

TBoneShelby:

JamesMiranda:

grabarkewitz:

TheSleaze:

grabarkewitz:

Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.

I don't watch ESPN anymore. I've watched maybe 15 minutes of it since the baseball season ended. SportsCenter is complete garbage, as is their other programming. I get my sports news off of the internet or a regional FSN network.

I get my sports fix from ESPN News and hopefully Cindy Brunson. Can't sit through much of FSN's programming and SportsCenter is a travesty. Thankfully, the NFL Draft will be broadcast by the NFL Network and I won't have to listen to Berman and his gaggle of idiots. I did get one bit of good news, Sean Salisbury was shown the door by BoSPiN. Maybe BoSPiN is getting the clue and will get rid of the fools, cretins and sub-humans. The minute they fire Stephen A. Smith, I celebrate. Man says less in ten minutes than any politician I have ever listened to.

Don't forget Skip Bayless.

He is the worst of all time, he has leaped past Joe Morgan, 570's Hartman, all the Padres' announcers, and Chris (I use my voice in differing baratones for effect) Berman. Man, there are a few more, but for time-sake; Bayless is the biggest moron of them all.

Yea. I sat down and watched his show 1 and 10 yesterday and this is how he starts his show: "for the record, I'm always right and you are wrong and sometimes we'll agree." such a hateful personality.

Bayless was a clown writer for the Chronicle, but even they have standards. I have seen the idiot on ESPN2, but I usually find that when he comes on, I have something to do or need to find something to do.

Good, you really don't need to know what he says and aren't missing out on anything becuase most everything that comes out of his mouth is just hateful crap against everything that exists in the world of sports becuase he's Skip Bayless and he's right and the world is wrong.

Ugh.

I hate, hate, hate, to be "defending" Skip Bayless because I agree he's totally unwatchable but.. this is his shtick. What kind of TV would it be to have one guy putting out an opinion and having the other guy going, "yes. i agree. good point." This is why he's there, to disagree no matter what and create conversation. That's not to say he's not horrible at life, but still.

TBoneShelby:

Mike Scioscias tragic illness:

JamesMiranda:

grabarkewitz:

JamesMiranda:

TBoneShelby:

JamesMiranda:

grabarkewitz:

TheSleaze:

grabarkewitz:

Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.

I don't watch ESPN anymore. I've watched maybe 15 minutes of it since the baseball season ended. SportsCenter is complete garbage, as is their other programming. I get my sports news off of the internet or a regional FSN network.

I get my sports fix from ESPN News and hopefully Cindy Brunson. Can't sit through much of FSN's programming and SportsCenter is a travesty. Thankfully, the NFL Draft will be broadcast by the NFL Network and I won't have to listen to Berman and his gaggle of idiots. I did get one bit of good news, Sean Salisbury was shown the door by BoSPiN. Maybe BoSPiN is getting the clue and will get rid of the fools, cretins and sub-humans. The minute they fire Stephen A. Smith, I celebrate. Man says less in ten minutes than any politician I have ever listened to.

Don't forget Skip Bayless.

He is the worst of all time, he has leaped past Joe Morgan, 570's Hartman, all the Padres' announcers, and Chris (I use my voice in differing baratones for effect) Berman. Man, there are a few more, but for time-sake; Bayless is the biggest moron of them all.

Yea. I sat down and watched his show 1 and 10 yesterday and this is how he starts his show: "for the record, I'm always right and you are wrong and sometimes we'll agree." such a hateful personality.

Bayless was a clown writer for the Chronicle, but even they have standards. I have seen the idiot on ESPN2, but I usually find that when he comes on, I have something to do or need to find something to do.

Good, you really don't need to know what he says and aren't missing out on anything becuase most everything that comes out of his mouth is just hateful crap against everything that exists in the world of sports becuase he's Skip Bayless and he's right and the world is wrong.

Ugh.

I hate, hate, hate, to be "defending" Skip Bayless because I agree he's totally unwatchable but.. this is his shtick. What kind of TV would it be to have one guy putting out an opinion and having the other guy going, "yes. i agree. good point." This is why he's there, to disagree no matter what and create conversation. That's not to say he's not horrible at life, but still.

True, but that doesn't excuse not knowing what you are talking about. He has consistently said that Lebron James isn't very good....just for starters.

Bayless, like Stephen A. Smith, are useless self promoters who couldn't combine for a healthy brain cell. Add Berman and most of the BBTN crew and you have a collosal gaggle of idiots that would challenge any other country's Olympic Idiot Team. The really sad part is that the sheep who worship BoSPiN don't realize that they are led by morons, buffoons and cretins. Just listening to Steve Phillips today gave me a headache and made me wonder just how many pictures he has of the suits at BoSPiN having sex with farm critters.

For a guy who spent years in baseball, Phillips has less knowledge of the game than the tomato I am going to dice up into tonight's salad. I used to think that Kruk was the biggest idiot on BBTN, followed by that fawning sycophant, Karl Ravech, but Phillips has surpassed both in one game this year. I mean, I look at all the smart players and front office types who are out of work and I see blithering idiots like Phillips, Kruk, Gary Thorne, Joe Morgan and Ravech covering the game I love while guys like Harold Reynolds, Billy Samples, Orel Hershiser and Orestes Destrade get left behind because they are not "buffoonish twits". It is truly sad that John Kruk can get a bully pulpit to spout his moronic (and usually wrong) opinions, while someone in the know like Orel is cut off at the knees as soon as he doesn't genuflect at the BoSPiN Party Line.

grabarkewitz:

TBoneShelby:

Mike Scioscias tragic illness:

JamesMiranda:

grabarkewitz:

JamesMiranda:

TBoneShelby:

JamesMiranda:

grabarkewitz:

TheSleaze:

grabarkewitz:

Hell, even BoSPiN has more to offer than network television.

I don't watch ESPN anymore. I've watched maybe 15 minutes of it since the baseball season ended. SportsCenter is complete garbage, as is their other programming. I get my sports news off of the internet or a regional FSN network.

I get my sports fix from ESPN News and hopefully Cindy Brunson. Can't sit through much of FSN's programming and SportsCenter is a travesty. Thankfully, the NFL Draft will be broadcast by the NFL Network and I won't have to listen to Berman and his gaggle of idiots. I did get one bit of good news, Sean Salisbury was shown the door by BoSPiN. Maybe BoSPiN is getting the clue and will get rid of the fools, cretins and sub-humans. The minute they fire Stephen A. Smith, I celebrate. Man says less in ten minutes than any politician I have ever listened to.

Don't forget Skip Bayless.

He is the worst of all time, he has leaped past Joe Morgan, 570's Hartman, all the Padres' announcers, and Chris (I use my voice in differing baratones for effect) Berman. Man, there are a few more, but for time-sake; Bayless is the biggest moron of them all.

Yea. I sat down and watched his show 1 and 10 yesterday and this is how he starts his show: "for the record, I'm always right and you are wrong and sometimes we'll agree." such a hateful personality.

Bayless was a clown writer for the Chronicle, but even they have standards. I have seen the idiot on ESPN2, but I usually find that when he comes on, I have something to do or need to find something to do.

Good, you really don't need to know what he says and aren't missing out on anything becuase most everything that comes out of his mouth is just hateful crap against everything that exists in the world of sports becuase he's Skip Bayless and he's right and the world is wrong.

Ugh.

I hate, hate, hate, to be "defending" Skip Bayless because I agree he's totally unwatchable but.. this is his shtick. What kind of TV would it be to have one guy putting out an opinion and having the other guy going, "yes. i agree. good point." This is why he's there, to disagree no matter what and create conversation. That's not to say he's not horrible at life, but still.

True, but that doesn't excuse not knowing what you are talking about. He has consistently said that Lebron James isn't very good....just for starters.

Bayless, like Stephen A. Smith, are useless self promoters who couldn't combine for a healthy brain cell. Add Berman and most of the BBTN crew and you have a collosal gaggle of idiots that would challenge any other country's Olympic Idiot Team. The really sad part is that the sheep who worship BoSPiN don't realize that they are led by morons, buffoons and cretins. Just listening to Steve Phillips today gave me a headache and made me wonder just how many pictures he has of the suits at BoSPiN having sex with farm critters.

For a guy who spent years in baseball, Phillips has less knowledge of the game than the tomato I am going to dice up into tonight's salad. I used to think that Kruk was the biggest idiot on BBTN, followed by that fawning sycophant, Karl Ravech, but Phillips has surpassed both in one game this year. I mean, I look at all the smart players and front office types who are out of work and I see blithering idiots like Phillips, Kruk, Gary Thorne, Joe Morgan and Ravech covering the game I love while guys like Harold Reynolds, Billy Samples, Orel Hershiser and Orestes Destrade get left behind because they are not "buffoonish twits". It is truly sad that John Kruk can get a bully pulpit to spout his moronic (and usually wrong) opinions, while someone in the know like Orel is cut off at the knees as soon as he doesn't genuflect at the BoSPiN Party Line.

That's the problem with Bospin; they go for the cheap shrill moron who appeals to the casual fan who bases his opinion of players solely on how they performed last season in his fantasy league. They all continue to hail the Mets as "clearly the team to beat" in the NL, and even mentioned the Padres as a "team to watch" over the Blue. I mean give me a freaking break; with an OF of J.Hairston/J.Gerut, Edmonds, Giles you have to be freaking kidding me. John-Ford could triple in a HS park with that concoction of garbage playing the field.

Good ST article on the Blue from MiLB.com

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080302&content_id=353421&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp

This is an outstanding article with a good overview of some of our most talented minor leaguers.

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080320&content_id=372005&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp

Torgy,

Actually, I think Ogden is the perfect place for Withrow to continue his journey. The main difference between the two Rookie clubs, Odgen and Gulf Coast, is the length of the season. Ogden plays about 70 games, while Gulf Coast only about 40. Placing him at Ogden will allow him to get a regular turn in the rotation (about 12 starts) with a chance at a late season call up to Great Lakes (A), where he would be headed in 2009. He would still get some time in extended ST, but we would be able to gradually increase his innings this way.

I hear what you are saying, that is why I want him to go to Ogden, so we can gradually increase his innings. At Odgen he should get anywhere from 12 to 15 starts or about 60 to 75 innings. Since most top HS arms usually get close to that in the condensed HS season he should be ok with that workload. Then we can bump him up to Great Lakes in 2009. Here is the scenario that I picture.

2008 (75 pitches max per start)
Ogden (R) 15 12 65.0
Great Lakes (A) 5 0 10.0
Season Totals 20 12 75.0

2009 (80 pitches max per start)
Great Lakes (A) 25 18 105.0
Inland Empire (A+) 5 0 10.0
Season Totals 30 18 115.0

2010 (85 pitches max per start)
Inland Empire (A+) 24 20 125.0
Jacksonville (AA) 6 0 10.0
Season Totals 30 20 135.0

2011 (90 pitches max per start)
Jacksonville (AA) 28 24 145.0

2012 (90 pitches max per start)
Jacksonville (AA) 10 10 65.0
Las Vegas (AAA) 15 15 85.0
Season Total 25 25 150.0

A left-handed Russell Martin?
3:23 PM Wed, Apr 02, 2008 | Permalink | Comments (0)
Posted by: Diamond Leung
The Dodgers were represented among the 12 or so scouts a high school game yesterday to watch Patriot High catcher Kyle Skipworth, who recently set a state record for notching 18 consecutive hits.

Roster #2 - Jacksonville Suns

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status
John Shoemaker Manager 51 08-18-1956 Active
Luis Salazar Batting Coach R R 5' 9" 180 51 05-19-1956 Active
Glenn Dishman Pitching Coach R L 6' 1" 195 37 11-05-1970 Active

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status 40-man MLB
35 Brian Akin P R R 6' 3" 185 26 10-13-1981 Active No
44 Mario Alvarez P R R 6' 0" 195 24 03-26-1984 Active Yes
45 Marlon Arias P L L 6' 3" 155 23 09-01-1984 Active No
13 Rick Asadoorian P R R 6' 2" 198 27 07-23-1980 Active No
50 Yhency Brazoban P R R 6' 1" 250 27 06-11-1980 Active Yes
15 Jesus Castillo P R R 6' 1" 195 23 05-31-1984 Active No
54 Zachary Hammes P R R 6' 6" 240 23 05-15-1984 Active No
22 Clayton Kershaw P L L 6' 3" 220 20 03-19-1988 Active No
17 James McDonald P L R 6' 5" 195 23 10-19-1984 Active Yes
37 Eduardo Sierra P R R 6' 3" 185 25 04-15-1982 Active No
18 Cory Wade P R R 6' 2" 170 24 05-28-1983 Active Yes
29 Kyle Wilson P R R 6' 2" 200 24 04-21-1983 Active No

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status 40-man MLB
30 Kelly Gulledge C R R 6' 1" 215 29 01-25-1979 Active No
25 Lucas May C R R 6' 0" 190 23 10-24-1984 Active Yes
31 Rene Rivera C R R 5' 10" 210 24 07-31-1983 Active No

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status 40-man MLB
11 Ivan De Jesus SS R R 5' 11" 182 20 05-01-1987 Active No
8 Adolfo Gonzalez SS R R 5' 11" 160 22 06-13-1985 Active No
9 Juan Gonzalez 2B R R 6' 0" 165 26 02-23-1982 Active No
28 Shane Justis 2B R R 5' 10" 175 25 03-11-1983 Active No
14 Russell Mitchell 1B R R 6' 1" 182 23 02-15-1985 Active No

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status 40-man MLB
23 Adam Godwin OF R R 5' 11" 170 25 12-13-1982 Active No
34 Jamie Hoffmann OF R R 6' 3" 230 23 08-20-1984 Active No
7 Greg Jacobs OF L L 5' 9" 195 31 10-09-1976 Active No
26 Bobby Malek OF L R 6' 3" 210 26 07-06-1981 Active No
6 James Tomlin RF R R 6' 0" 183 25 08-12-1982 Active No

And last, but not least, the Great Lakes Loons

Great Lakes Loons

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status
Juan Bustabad Manager L R 46 08-16-1961 Active
Garey Ingram Batting Coach R R 5' 11" 180 37 07-25-1970 Active
Danny Darwin Pitching Coach R R 6' 3" 190 52 10-25-1955 Active

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status 40-man MLB
38 Geison Aguasviva P L L 6' 2" 166 20 08-03-1987 Active No
10 Robert Blevins P R R 6' 0" 200 23 01-16-1985 Active No
22 Johnathan Dutton P L L 6' 1" 155 20 09-30-1987 Active No
37 Victor Garate P L L 6' 2" 185 23 09-25-1984 Active No
35 Steven Johnson P R R 6' 1" 200 20 08-31-1987 Active No
36 Thomas Melgarejo P L L 6' 1" 216 21 01-10-1987 Active No
6 Justin Miller P R R 6' 3" 190 20 08-02-1987 Active No
23 Bryan Morris P L R 6' 3" 200 21 03-28-1987 Active No
40 Miguel Ramirez P R R 5' 11" 180 24 07-15-1983 Active No
52 Daigoro Rondon P R R 6' 2" 163 21 11-04-1986 Active No
51 Miguel Sanfler P L L 5' 11" 165 23 10-05-1984 Active No
28 Matthew Sartor P R R 6' 6" 250 23 08-18-1984 Active No
29 Kyle Smit P R R 6' 3" 165 20 10-14-1987 Active No

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status 40-man MLB
14 Alex Garabedian C R R 6' 2" 210 22 08-26-1985 Active No
50 Kenley Jansen C S R 6' 2" 220 20 09-30-1987 Active No
8 Esteban Lopez C R R 6' 1" 210 23 06-20-1984 Active No

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status 40-man MLB
43 Pedro Baez 3B R R 6' 2" 199 20 03-11-1988 Active No
3 Joseph Becker SS R R 5' 11" 175 22 11-08-1985 Active No
9 Parker Dalton SS R R 6' 1" 185 24 07-07-1983 Active No
26 Brian Mathews 3B R R 6' 0" 210 20 08-26-1987 Active No
31 Preston Mattingly 2B R R 6' 3" 205 20 08-28-1987 Active No
25 Jaime Ortiz 1B L L 6' 3" 200 19 07-14-1988 Active No

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status 40-man MLB
11 Erik Kanaby OF L R 6' 1" 185 22 07-26-1985 Active No
5 Andrew Lambo OF L L 6' 3" 190 19 08-11-1988 Active No
21 Jovanny Rosario OF S R 5' 9" 160 22 04-12-1985 Active No
7 Scott Van Slyke OF R R 6' 5" 195 21 07-24-1986 Active No
16 Travis Vetters OF R R 6' 2" 190 24 09-11-1983 Active No

Mike Scioscias tragic illness:

grabarkewitz:

Here is the first of the four rosters who will open up play today and tonight.

Roster
2008 Las Vegas 51s Roster

Num Name Pos Bat Thw Ht Wt Age DOB Status 40-man MLB
25 Kevin Howard 2B L R 6' 2" 190 26 06-25-1981 Active No
54 John Lindsey 1B R R 6' 2" 230 31 01-30-1977 Active No
12 Ramon Martinez 2B R R 6' 0" 190 35 10-10-1972 Active No
3 Luis Maza 3B R R 5' 9" 180 27 06-22-1980 Active No
28 Rex Rundgren SS R R 6' 1" 170 27 11-20-1980 Active No
26 Terry Tiffee 3B S R 6' 3" 225 28 04-21-1979 Active No

That is one BRUTAL infield.

good thing Angel Chavez is on his way to save the day....