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Can anyone remember a Lakers team that has collectively been such a sack of pussies, like this one?

ocmike24:

Matthew:

Can anyone remember a Lakers team that has collectively been such a sack of pussies, like this one?

Too much Euro Trash.

(Disclaimer: No offense intended to any euro trash actually reading this)

You took the words right out of my mouth, verbatim, Mike.

Just keep chucking up three pointers. Why the hell not?

God is a Gasol a fucking pussy. Put in Mihm, at least he'll give an effort.

jpldodger:

Matthew:

Can anyone remember a Lakers team that has collectively been such a sack of pussies, like this one?

The '84 Laker team was sackless. We all remember the McHale clothesline, and Rambis (or anyone else, for that matter) did nothing about it. They also lost that series in 7, and it turned on that play. The next year, if I'm not mistaken, Riley told them that they were going to be tougher than everybody else and brought in a couple enforcers (i.e. Kupchak). That's what we need...somebody like James Posey. I hate that guy...but that's his purpose! We need someone who can frustrate everyone else on the other team.

OC- why on earth would they need to trade Kobe? Because those 'trade a superstar' deals work out real well in the NBA? Name one that brought back anything near a comparable return. We got raped with Shaq. Iverson, McGrady, Garnett, Allen...it can't be done. The Lakers should keep the best player on the planet, even if he's a total pain in the rear.

And I completely agree with you about the enforcer type. I've always thought the 12th guy on the bench should be a goon a la the NHL. Make a deal with the guy that he has a job for life if you have to send him in to kil someone.

jpldodger:

Matthew:

Can anyone remember a Lakers team that has collectively been such a sack of pussies, like this one?

The '84 Laker team was sackless. We all remember the McHale clothesline, and Rambis (or anyone else, for that matter) did nothing about it. They also lost that series in 7, and it turned on that play. The next year, if I'm not mistaken, Riley told them that they were going to be tougher than everybody else and brought in a couple enforcers (i.e. Kupchak). That's what we need...somebody like James Posey. I hate that guy...but that's his purpose! We need someone who can frustrate everyone else on the other team.

OC- why on earth would they need to trade Kobe? Because those 'trade a superstar' deals work out real well in the NBA? Name one that brought back anything near a comparable return. We got raped with Shaq. Iverson, McGrady, Garnett, Allen...it can't be done. The Lakers should keep the best player on the planet, even if he's a total pain in the rear.

Mostly just venting, as well. Probably because I can't fathom Kobe laying such an absolute egg when he had his chance to put his mark on the league.

jpldodger:

ocmike24:

jpldodger:

Matthew:

Can anyone remember a Lakers team that has collectively been such a sack of pussies, like this one?

The '84 Laker team was sackless. We all remember the McHale clothesline, and Rambis (or anyone else, for that matter) did nothing about it. They also lost that series in 7, and it turned on that play. The next year, if I'm not mistaken, Riley told them that they were going to be tougher than everybody else and brought in a couple enforcers (i.e. Kupchak). That's what we need...somebody like James Posey. I hate that guy...but that's his purpose! We need someone who can frustrate everyone else on the other team.

OC- why on earth would they need to trade Kobe? Because those 'trade a superstar' deals work out real well in the NBA? Name one that brought back anything near a comparable return. We got raped with Shaq. Iverson, McGrady, Garnett, Allen...it can't be done. The Lakers should keep the best player on the planet, even if he's a total pain in the rear.

Which planet is that? I've always been a huge Kobe defender, but this entire debacle has shown me that he is unbelievably one dimensional. When the likes of that fat ass gangbanger from the 'Wood chews your ass like a piece of beef jerky, you know somethings wrong.

If with sign and trades and a FA signing, you could swap Kobe for Davis and Arenas, would you do it?

Trading Kobe to GS for Baron and then signing Arenas? The salary cap wouldn't allow it. There isn't a player in the league (besides LeBron) that I'd trade Kobe straight-up for. I'm not a huge Kobe fan, but the fact remains that he prepares harder than anyone & will age well because of it, he's the best offensive player in the NBA according to every player I've heard interviewed, and coaches obviously recognize that he can play a little defense (by electing him to All-NBA 1st team D- even though he didn't deserve it). There is no substitute.

The player that needs to go is Lamar. He's too inconsistent and Kobe should play the wing when Gasol shifts to the 4 to accomodate Bynum at the 5. We need a shooter (i.e. Michael Redd).

It's quite clear that the "dreaded" Bynum-Gasol-Odumb front line would never work. None of them can shoot outside of ten feet. I could see moving Kobe to the wing in that scenario.

The one thing I disagree with, regarding Gasol, is that he should move to the 4 spot next year. I think he would greatly benefit if he were moved to his more natural position...

Brookster:

ocmike24:

What a pathetic "performance" all around.

I've said it on several occasions this week (maybe not here), but if, and I know that's a BIG if, Bynum is proven to be 100%, then Kobe needs to be traded.

Actually, Gasol is the player that is most disappointing to me tonight. Complete lack of hustle.

Totally agree, Gasol is as soft as they come. I want him out of here and he can take Radmanavic, Vujacic and Walton with him. We need more toughness.

ocmike24:

Matthew:

Can anyone remember a Lakers team that has collectively been such a sack of pussies, like this one?

Too much Euro Trash.

(Disclaimer: No offense intended to any euro trash actually reading this)

Not offened at all, our guys look like pansy soccer players going up against aggressive guys with heart. This team has disappointed me beyond belief this series.

SVbeagador:

I'm sure there are a lot of women who are tougher then most "guys". So, I think because some of the lakers are "soft" it's a bit shallow to make references to them being females, IMO.

Pussies, girls, women, fucking babies. Whatever.

ocmike24:

If the Lakers had any balls, the SECOND one of these asshole Celtics cast up a 3 in the last 7 or 8 minutes of a 30 point game, would have been the time one of them was heading to the hospital.

I hope someone has a long memory and breaks Ray Allen's fucking neck next year.

That's why we need some Charles Oakley types on this team, at least ONE guy who won't put up with this garbage. Slam Rondo to the ground when he drives, get in Garnett's face, bark at Posey for fouling after the whistle, instead we've got soccer style euro pussies with no fight in them. F'n losers.

grabarkewitz:

Well, I am disappointed with the Lakers' performance at the end, but think about it, guys. This team, at the start of the year, had no right to even think about the finals and yet they made it to the finals. This team, in October, was an unhappy Kobe and some very average complimentary parts. I expected 48-50 wins if everything went well. No way did I, or I suspect most, figured they would get past the first round of the playoffs, much less the finals. Yeah, they tanked, but the team we have now is much better than the team we had in October and I suspect the team we will have next October will be much better than this team.

I don't see much reason in trading Odom or Gasol, they are two of the big reasons this team went this far and if they weren't ready for the Celtics and their veteran team, so be it. They will have many more opportunities to get the hardware, while the Celts could very likely be one and done. The Celtics knew they would be in the finals when they put this team together. The Lakers had little reason to actually even ponder that thought.

Yeah, there is little joy in taking second, but let's at least take some happiness in the fact that our team is back where it belongs. Among the best two teams in the game, by next year, they will be the best.

I would have to believe that many of us hard core Laker fans are a bit over emotional and disappointed at this hour.

I agree with most of what you said. We all learn from our mistakes and this organization has taken giant steps forward. I am expectant that the Lake Show will have Bynum and Gasol playing with KB over the next two years and will grow to win the big trophy.

ocmike24:

If the Lakers had any balls, the SECOND one of these asshole Celtics cast up a 3 in the last 7 or 8 minutes of a 30 point game, would have been the time one of them was heading to the hospital.

I hope someone has a long memory and breaks Ray Allen's fucking neck next year.

Kup and Rambo need to put an enforcer on this roster in 2009. Doesn't Mahorn have a son of that vintage by now?

I do think having Bynum would make a big difference, but he to has to be more aggressive. He got pushed around at times when he was healthy.

The Lakers made it far. They made it further than any other team not named the Celtics. They were two games away from the championship (who would have really thought that one year ago). They have some very good young players.

Gasol has to hit the weight room.

Kobe has to learn to be more of a leader. MJ would have willed his team to play hard and fight for the title. Losing by 39 points and blowing a 24 point lead, reflects bad on the leadership (Kobe and PJ).

Bynum -hopefully gets healthy.

We need an artest type player. Hopefully artest, if not maybe Posey. We need someone that can play D at the three spot.

I think Odom has to go. He is too inconsistent. If we can acquire a good player in return, we have to consider moving him.

Other than that, we just have to hope the players grow from the defeat and learn from it. With improvement from Ariza and Farmer, we should have a solid sporting cast.